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Haglund that's right of the x-files one

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of the Lone Gunmen

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favorite night of the week well besides

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you know we're in the now so tonight is

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the night but tomorrow night is fate or

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night alright big crowd salute to the

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men and women in uniform all around the

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world fighting the good fight for us or

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good tonight I don't know why just kind

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of looks right got the little can of

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where I'm at right now that pic was

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email how cool is that by anyway that's

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looking at the picture of him and Garth

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very very funny guy very smart guy and

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he also has a great podcast chill pack

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Hollywood you should check out too as

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the links are add to maturity calm click

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on it and you can go there and check it

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why didn't we he was like man we should

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be doing this in studio yes

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next time he promised he will he will

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come in and he broadcast from downtown

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LA and lives right there in the theater

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district and we'll talk to him about

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that too as well we've got so much to

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talk to Dean about and there's so much

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mystery behind the x-files and and we

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where are we let's look look I got tons

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Facebook I saw Twitter I saw all of that

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about the Marx email and yes Marx email

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will get read and I promise and I got

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another really cool Facebook post as

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backwards and that's all I'm gonna say

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friend of the show for a long time and

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didn't know I read the email today now I

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know why he was in a panic I will get to

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that too as well all right so with that

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let's get to show Kraken don't forget to

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two big events this week number one

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is coming up so don't miss that that's

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Friday night and then Saturday I will be

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hosting the 2015 conscious life unsolved

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mysteries seminar that's this Saturday

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April 18th 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. at the LAX

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Hilton and if you live in LA if you are

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in the area you're gonna be visiting

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you're gonna do your thing whatever come

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and see us at the LAX Hilton all of you

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fate or knots come and see us Mike Berra

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Barbara Lam I'm Barbara Lam a true

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legend in ufology Barbara lambs gonna be

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there Douglas Taylor doug is a very very

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very smart guy also a pretty talented

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artist too as well painter he and Dana

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Dunn so please come check us out 11:00

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was all go hang out at the Hilton bar

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they have tables that light up there

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Seth Rogan is 33 years old and that's a

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mountain of success isn't it beef before

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the age of 33 to do what he has done man

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oh man funny guy - I like Seth he's all

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hire Seth to be Seth right 33 years old

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guitar 'dom a guy that can spank the

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plank guitarist Roy Clark

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is 82 years old I think at one time they

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called him like the fastest guitar

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player in the world remember that and he

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was man I'm sure he's still shredding at

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82 Roy Clark hee ha all right happy

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birthday Roy also today here's one for

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you all of you eighties kids huh

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Samantha Fox is 49 years old had those

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80s hits remember remember that hit

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I want your body remember that remember

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do ya do ya wanna please me Samantha Fox

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that's right she dated Paul Stanley I

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think that was her claim to fame and the

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songs are good can't you can't can't

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deny her that Samantha Fox 49 years old

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yeah please nobody don't start tweeting

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kids show - we don't need to go there

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also today Black Keys drummer that's

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right Patrick Pat Carney 35 years old

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and that dude is sober talented that

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whole band is good our dead guy's

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birthdays today our singer Bessie Smith

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possibly one of if not well just check

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this out she was a major major influence

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on jazz period nicknamed the Empress of

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greatest singers of all time that's

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right Bessie Smith on September 26 1937

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she was critically injured in a car

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accident while travelling along u.s.

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route 61 between Memphis Tennessee and

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she died the next morning without

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regaining consciousness I'm not going

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into details on the car accident because

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it is it was a truly horrific and it was

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a bad way to go

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anyway Bessie Smith one of the Great's

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if not the greatest of all time happy

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birthday and I know you're listening all

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right now let's get this show crackin

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for a minute today and I'm just gonna go

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there I'm gonna go there Seth Rogen Seth

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Rogen that's his best movie

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what's his best movie are they all the

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same are they all even keel or does one

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anybody anybody out there types in

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tweets the movie neighbors you're banned

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you're banned from the show for life

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but what Seth Rogen's best movie because

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some of its really really good all right

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follow us on twitter @jj radio facebook

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is Jimmy turret radio calm YouTube is

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fade to black

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ready to go follow like and subscribe

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tonight we have actor Dean Haglund and

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before I get to Dean Haglund I've got to

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before I get to the news that you know

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nothing about I'm gonna take a minute

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right here I'm gonna pack it in I'm

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gonna get it done this is Mark's email

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are you ready here we go this comes from

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Mark Wyatt from the UK he says most

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people are lucky if they have had one

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paranormal experience in their life

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I have probably had at least thirty and

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here's one of them my own strange train

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experience around 1981 I was 21 years

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old I was on my way to work on a

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South England southeast England just a

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mile or so from Guildford a small city a

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walk to the village railway station to

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catch a train into town into Guildford a

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journey that would take about ten

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unmanned station it was about 8:00 a.m.

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footbridge to get to the other platform

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there was nobody on either platform as I

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stood on the

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their platform I did my usual thing I

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paced up and down the edge of the

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platform occasionally stopping to look

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at the usual junk that ends up between

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the electrified rails and also looking

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down the line searching for the first

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sign of the little electric train coming

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up from Gatwick Airport I was about 15

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minutes early I was bored and Jeff just

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kept pacing and looking down the line

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there was still nobody about but that

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wasn't that unusual on a Saturday

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morning as most working communities

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commuters had Saturday mornings off then

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the strangest thing happened I suddenly

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noticed an older stocky man with very

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thin white gray hair he looked about 65

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ish in dark black trousers a black

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blazer jacket and a dog collar a Church

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of England vicar walking towards me

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along the platform this was weird

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because I had not seen him crossing over

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the footbridge and to where he was he

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would have to have crossed that

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footbridge he came right up to me and we

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greeted each other he had a real

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presence and there was something very

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deep about his eyes sort of unworldly he

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dominated the conversation that would

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make some of my mates laugh I can hear

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them now yeah right nobody can out talk

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you but he had uncanny knowledge of all

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of my family but I didn't know who he

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was I was trying to figure out who he

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was but for some reason I didn't ask him

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how he knew so much about me and my

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family now a little background here I

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was brought up in the church and the C

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of E Church Church of England shirt not

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a devout bible-bashing fundamentalist

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sort of way but more in a low-key very

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English way we weren't Catholics we

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didn't go in for all of the heavy stuff

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that they do on a daily basis I had been

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a choirboy and I ended up being a head

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chorister my best mate was and is our

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vicars son I tell you this just to show

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you that in my small village I know the

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vicar very well I

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knew the previous vicar well - and it

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wasn't this guy I can still picture this

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guy to this day and the weird thing is

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is that he resembled Clarence the angel

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in a Wonderful Life interesting I

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spotted the light of the train headed

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towards us from chill worth about a mile

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down the track and I told the guy he

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turned around to see we chatted a bit

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more the train pulled up alongside the

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platform and we both got on our way he

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said something along the lines of hey

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they still looked the same way as we

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remember them the young couple are still

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staring at me he's talking about I

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skipped a little bit forward there was a

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couple that came up and started talking

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and he makes comments about them that

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are a bit strange he was talking about

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them and reacted them in a very

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emotional way he had something along the

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lines of they are the same as we were

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mind it we we remember them looking back

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on it later I had the feeling that

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perhaps he couldn't see the vicar and

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and thought that I was mad as a box of

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frogs and talking to myself another

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thought was that they were there somehow

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linked to him and reading and studying

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me within minutes we arrived at the busy

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platform number five at Guildford I said

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goodbye to him he seemed really phased

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out as if energy had faded he barely

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noticed me so I got off the train and

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then out of curiosity I looked back at

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the window where he had been sitting

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because I felt in my bones that there

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was something wrong about all of them no

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vicar the young couple was gone too I

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walked up and down the train and looked

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at all of the people getting off no sign

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of any of them anywhere I would have

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seen them years later I've told the

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story to a friend and he suggested that

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my guardian angel was pacing on that

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platform and got the idea that I was

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thinking of jumping in front of the

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train when it had arrived he says who

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knows I don't I'm just another guy

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trying to figure it all out Jimmy and

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there you go

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and that's the letter from our quiet

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this is fade to black take a quick break

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I got some other stuff too when I come

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back I have the fade to black or the

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Facebook fade to black FB Facebook

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posting about the UFO sighting that

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happened at the end of the show last

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night I'll get to that and all of the

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news that you know nothing about and

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then Dean Haglund will join us at the

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bottom of the hour I'll be back right

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after this this is fade to black this

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spoke radio for the masses the Wednesday

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edition I'm your host Tim you Church do

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not touch that mouse I'll be back right

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after this stay with us

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[Music]

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you're listening to Jimmy Church fade to

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fade to black will now pause for a

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de-identification a GRA radio what's up

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revolutionaries it's me Jimmy Church do

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you have an IRS or state tax issue well

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I did and I called national tax experts

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my problems were fixed done fini and man

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I gotta tell you it was a relief

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national tax experts are recognized tax

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office that services clients in all 50

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give them a call I'm telling you they

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take the time to understand each and

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every clients individual financial

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status as well as their financial goals

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and that's exactly what you need my

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brother when you're taking on the evil

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three-letter so seriously give them a

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call today at 187 seven nine oh nine

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four or go check out their website dub

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dub dub gnat tax experts calm that's na

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t t ax expe RT s dot-com tell them Jimmy

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[Music]

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all right everybody welcome back fade to

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black the Wednesday edition tonight Dean

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Haglund one of the lone gunmen from the

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x-files will be with us through short

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minutes

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this is fade to black on the game

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pick up this post from Leonard today on

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Facebook he says so I've got a story and

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you'll like it because it involves you

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last night I called into the show

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towards the end I was on the line and I

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could hear you and your guests talking

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unfortunately right when you begin to

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talk to me my phone mysteriously died I

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was going to tell you about a UFO that

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was flying over my house live while you

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were on the air and I had my coworker

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we're in the front yard watching this

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extremely bright light floating up and

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down and back and forth in the sky it

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was really strange that my phone died

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when it did because it was nearly

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completely charged I have an iPhone and

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they don't normally do that my friend

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and I watched it for about 20 minutes

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and and and then it just dimmed and

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disappeared it's not the first time I've

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seen this light but it has ever been

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this close I want to say it was about

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200 to 250 feet up tops my friend didn't

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believe in UFOs before but he sure as

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hell does now I live 20 minutes south of

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Mavericks and if you know Californian

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that's from Leonard if you know

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Californian you know San Francisco and

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you know that area then you know

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Mavericks so that's where he was out

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near the coast in California Northern

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California if anybody was up there last

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night and saw anything strange let me

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know and and I guess you know we were

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were West Coast times so that all went

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down at about a quarter till 10:00 last

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night 9:45 so if anybody saw anything

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out on the California coast near San

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Francisco and Mavericks please contact

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the show and if you got any pictures or

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have anything to report again contact me

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right here Jimmy at Jimmy Turks radio

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comm I want to know about it all right

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let's get to the news that you know

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nothing about I'll try to get as much of

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this in as I can before we get to Dean

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here at the bottom of the hour US

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Capitol Police today converged on a

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small manned aircraft that landed

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on the west front lawn of the Capitol

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building in Washington DC police have

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taken the pilot into custody they're

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investigating a gyrocopter with a single

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occupant that has landed on the grassy

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area of the West Lawn of the US Capitol

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the US Capitol Police continues to

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investigate with the Paris entertain and

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temporary street closures in the

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immediate area according to White House

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spokesman Eric Schultz the president has

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been briefed on the situation the Tampa

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Bay Times is reporting that the pilot is

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a mail man from Florida who planned the

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flight to protest the Supreme Court

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decisions in citizens united case and

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influence on outside money in politics

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he told the Times that he wanted to

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deliver mail to the lawmakers outline

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outlining his complaints the paper is

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reporting it was Missy he called The

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Secret Service in Capitol Hill police

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before he flew the plane the pilot was

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planning the protest flight for over two

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years purchasing the copter learning to

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fly it and then planning on delivering

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mail to Washington DC nASA released the

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first ever color images of Pluto today

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captured by the New Horizons probe as

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the spacecraft continues its marathon

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journey to the remote dwarf planet the

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picture which was taken by the probes

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Ralph color imager last week shows the

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rust-coloured Pluto and its biggest moon

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Charon Charon as little more than to

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little blurry specs somebody posts this

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on Twitter really quick I have a couple

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of snapshots of it to here as well but

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NASA says that it expects to deliver a

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much closer look soon starting in May

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Pluto will get the highest resolution

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images ever and it's going to get better

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and better every day from here

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New Horizons which the space agency

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calls the fastest spacecraft ever

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launched will cap its 10-year mission

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when it performs a flyby of Pluto and

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its neighboring bodies on July 14th

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completing its primary mission over 3

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billion miles from Earth the pictures

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are

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400 meters per pixel a Georgia man found

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a new way to deflect blame after

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shooting his mother-in-law that's right

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he said an armadillo was at fault

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indeed the armored animal was the target

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of the son in law's bullet but it

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ricocheted off of the armadillo hitting

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his mother-in-law

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Larry McElroy 54 was outside when he

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took aim at the armadillo with his

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9-millimeter pistol the Lee County

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Sheriff's Office told the news the

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armadillo was not faster than the

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speeding bullet though which ended up

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being more powerful than McElroy

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expected as it leapt off the fence and

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into a building on his property that's

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right the bullet ricocheted flew off

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flew into the door of his

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mother-in-law's mobile home about 100

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yards away from where he was standing

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through her recliner and hit her in the

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back she's actually okay the armadillo

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was pronounced dead at the scene

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an Arkansas lawyer currently involved in

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a police whistleblower case was in for a

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rude surprise when he received an

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external hard drive via Federal Express

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from a law enforcement attorney it was

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stuffed with three different kinds of

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surveillance malware lawyer Matthew

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Campbell of North Little Rock first star

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was first started thinking something was

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wrong when the attorney for the Fort

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Smith Police Department responded to his

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request for evidence by sending him a

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hard drive

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typically Campbell had received evidence

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via email the US Postal Service or a

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cloud-based storage system something

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didn't add up in a way they approached

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it so I sent my soft sand sent the

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hardware to my software guy first

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Campbell said to the Northwest Arkansas

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Democrat is that I thought I'm not

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plugging that thing into my computer

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after a security consultant took a look

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at the hardware he found it was setup to

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take over his computer and allow for the

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installation of additional malware the

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presence of the software wasn't an

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accident

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according to an affidavit that was filed

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on the case last week the placement of

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those trojans all in the same subfolder

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not in the root directory means that the

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trojans were not already on the external

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hard drive that was sent to mr. campbell

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and were more likely placed in that

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folder intentionally with the goal of

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taking command of mr. Campbell's

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computer while also stealing passwords

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to his accounts reads the affidavit the

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case involves three police officers who

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tried to blow the whistle on officials

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for wrongful behavior so it's Oprah Bill

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Murray George Clooney Scarlett Johansson

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Jerry Seinfeld Howard Stern Tina Fey

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Michael Keaton Steve Martin and Ray

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Romano yesterday The Late Show with

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David Letterman announced some of the

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guests that the talk show hosts final

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month of broadcast will have on the show

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the last Late Show will air Wednesday

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May 20th now if there are any doubts if

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there any doubts that healthcare data

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breaches are a major problem the medical

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industry just put them to rest

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researchers have published a study

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showing that a whopping 29 point 1

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million Americans health records were

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compromised between 2010 and 2013

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most of them 58 percent were exposed

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through theft but the rest were revealed

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through a mix of hacks and carelessness

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including workers who have unauthorized

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access or didn't properly get rid of the

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info that they no longer needed and

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that's it that's all the news that you

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need to know I am ready

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let's go hit a break when I come back

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after the break we will be joined with

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Dean Haglund this is fade to black

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Haglund right after this stay with us

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the Wednesday edition right off the

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spoke radio for the masses I am your

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host Jimmy Church the game changer

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Network and K G RA the planets let's get

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this show cracking Dean Haglund played

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Richard Ringo Langley one of the lone

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gunmen on the x-files he's a stand-up

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comedian specializing in improvisational

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comedy and also betrayed Langley in the

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x-files spin-off series the lone gunman

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which aired in 2001 Hagelin appears

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briefly in the 2007 documentary from

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here - a drama de which I watched again

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last night

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Hagelin was born in Oak bank Manitoba

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Canada the son of a structural engineer

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he is the inventor of the chill pack a

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commercial external cooling product for

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laptop computers Hagelin currently hosts

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the chill pack Hollywood our podcast

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where he discusses all things Hollywood

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with independent filmmaker Philly

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earnest and who he also produced the

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documentary he starred as stars in UFOs

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the truth is out there I would like to

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welcome to the program oh we can't

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forget you also hosts episodes of the

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x-files on the YouTube channel which

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I've also been checking out Hagelin is

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on the advisory board of sci fest the

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first annual Los Angeles science fiction

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one-act play festival I like to welcome

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live from downtown Los Angeles right

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down the street Dean Haglund Dean how

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are you tonight sir welcome to the

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program and I'm so fired up I'm excited

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at me too it's great to be on the show

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and you know I do this with all

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first-time guests and you'll be back

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with us and we won't do the disclaimer

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but I'll do this now okay it's just you

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and I sitting on my couch my friend

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we're gonna have an open-ended

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conversation where we say yep where we

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start we start we end where we end and

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hopefully we're still friends you know

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it takes a lot to offend me so do your

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worst Kimmy well you know this is the

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thing Dean and this is what I respect so

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much about you is I've listened to chill

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packs so much

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and I've seen your documentary probably

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it's one of those documentaries you go

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back and you watch it over and over

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again and I've probably seen the truth

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is out there 10 times Wow I have and I

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think most people I think most people

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have because there's so much in it it's

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funny it's controversial it's there's

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you learn stuff in it too as well and

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you've got to go back and just watch it

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over and over again and so I've done it

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so many times I want to spend some time

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on that and how you got that done but I

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want to I want to back up and talk a

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little bit about Canada and was that

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what that was like growing up there and

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did you have any encounters or anything

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00:36:26,370 --> 00:36:24,640
you know that there's probably more UFO

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sightings in Canada than anywhere else

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in the world

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and I don't know why that is so I don't

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know either but your question is had I

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seen any UFOs before I got on the

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x-files yeah well before you came to the

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United States certainly growing up in

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Canada

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yeah no didn't had friends who had seen

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an odd thing or two up in the sky and my

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brother was really into UFOs and

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conspiracy theories and stuff like that

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so much so that when I was on The X

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Files I would actually call him to learn

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about some of the stuff that you know

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were mentioned in the scripts so he was

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more into it but then through osmosis I

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00:37:11,609 --> 00:37:08,200
learnt it as well and okay so what about

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00:37:13,980 --> 00:37:11,619
your okay alright what about your family

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were they open-minded was this stuff

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that was ever discussed or you know was

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it a conservative upbringing

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no was it too conservative my my mum was

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of the Mennonite clan in Manitoba you

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know there's a very large Mennonite

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population there right so they're sort

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of conservative but they also have other

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you know they're not close minded to the

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point of I saw a UFO get out of the

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house or anything like that so there was

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there was discussion on alien life and

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alternative life forms and all that sort

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of thing but done in a kind of a

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scientific manner like we all were we're

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up on

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[Music]

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encyclopedia knowledge of all things

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unusual so yeah we talked about it but I

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don't think we ever you know we're

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spending hours and hours looking into

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the skies for UFOs or anything like that

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and then I know that you were in

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improvisational comedy up and this is

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what I definitely want to talk about

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this because I'm into this subject you

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00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:21,789
got into that up in Canada and again

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this is the other thing when you were

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started to get into this when you look

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at all of the Canadians that got into

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that I don't know if it's the water if

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it's the snow but you guys cranked out

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comedians left and right I mean yes it's

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all across the country absolutely and

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and the improv group that was in

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Vancouver at the time came after the

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World's Fair of 1986 in Vancouver and

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they basically hired every funny

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improviser from across Canada I moved

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them all to Vancouver and then so

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there's this theatre group that had this

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high concentration of incredibly

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talented credibly funny people including

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Bryan Styles Colin Mochrie from lose

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light instead anyway you know Gary Jones

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from Stargate all these guys that were

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so funny

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and you would perform with them you do

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ten shows a week with them and naturally

812
00:39:24,329 --> 00:39:21,760
that rubbed off and and how you know and

813
00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:24,339
I'm thankful for that today yeah I'm so

814
00:39:29,010 --> 00:39:26,260
thankful for Canada I mean without that

815
00:39:30,779 --> 00:39:29,020
I mean look the list the obvious stuff

816
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:30,789
when you look at you know the Rick

817
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:33,250
Moranis is and that whole crew and and

818
00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:35,529
it's that whole side of things and some

819
00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:37,900
of those great films that came out of

820
00:39:42,329 --> 00:39:40,510
the eight you look at I'll pull one out

821
00:39:44,339 --> 00:39:42,339
of the Hat right now Club Paradise which

822
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:44,349
is awesome right you know nobody talks

823
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:47,650
about that film today oh I'll watch it

824
00:39:52,289 --> 00:39:49,690
right now and laughs and I've seen it a

825
00:39:53,609 --> 00:39:52,299
thousand times that's funny

826
00:39:55,650 --> 00:39:53,619
I didn't really think of that as a

827
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:55,660
Canadian film but I guess it is it's

828
00:40:01,470 --> 00:39:59,680
Martin Short everybody said that that's

829
00:40:04,110 --> 00:40:01,480
right I had not put that together before

830
00:40:06,030 --> 00:40:04,120
but

831
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:06,040
it's just really funny you guys were

832
00:40:11,940 --> 00:40:08,710
cranking it out and so you're in the

833
00:40:14,610 --> 00:40:11,950
middle of all of that creativity and and

834
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:14,620
then you come to LA did you continue The

835
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:17,770
Improv here because I was I was

836
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:21,910
following the improv scene here in LA

837
00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:24,910
do you remember comedy Sportz

838
00:40:31,860 --> 00:40:29,980
of course I do sports a lot actually as

839
00:40:35,490 --> 00:40:31,870
you know I guessed it here not in the

840
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:35,500
Milwaukee comedy sports your comes it's

841
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,510
like the joy of once you learn improv

842
00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:40,240
and and you have a TV show under your

843
00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:42,070
belt then you could sort of just go to

844
00:40:49,350 --> 00:40:46,270
any city and said sit and be a guest

845
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:49,360
member on it get these groups did you do

846
00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:53,170
comedy sports here in LA I think I did

847
00:40:58,290 --> 00:40:55,870
once or twice when I first came through

848
00:41:01,260 --> 00:40:58,300
town I was doing the Acme [\h__\h] which

849
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:01,270
had a late-night improv run LaBrea

850
00:41:05,820 --> 00:41:03,370
right they weren't an official comedy

851
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:05,830
sports group they were a loose band of

852
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:08,710
improvisers from all different second

853
00:41:13,650 --> 00:41:11,710
city ImprovOlympic out of Chicago right

854
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:13,660
comedy sports and theater sports as well

855
00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:16,450
yeah I followed all of that I got really

856
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:19,030
addicted to the improvisational comedy

857
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:21,760
scene that was going on here in LA you

858
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:23,440
know in the 80s and all throughout the

859
00:41:28,380 --> 00:41:26,530
90s it was really picking up steam it

860
00:41:31,890 --> 00:41:28,390
really was and there was a lot coming

861
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:31,900
into town on the Santa Monica Pier at

862
00:41:35,850 --> 00:41:33,490
the up-front there was a second City

863
00:41:40,050 --> 00:41:35,860
alumni show right that I would perform

864
00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:40,060
with all the time and then my stand-up

865
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:42,070
act on the road would actually be a

866
00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:44,110
one-person improvised episode of the

867
00:41:56,490 --> 00:41:53,950
x-files tell me there's video just tell

868
00:41:57,950 --> 00:41:56,500
me there's there is you know I filmed

869
00:42:00,510 --> 00:41:57,960
some of them at the conventions and then

870
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:00,520
would burn it onto DVD over night and

871
00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:02,890
sell the DVDs back to them so so there

872
00:42:06,260 --> 00:42:04,630
is video unfortunately a lot of these

873
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:06,270
conventions aren't really lit

874
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:08,110
theatrically there are a couple of

875
00:42:12,990 --> 00:42:10,510
overhead fluorescents so there's

876
00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:13,000
incredible audio but it looks like hell

877
00:42:17,070 --> 00:42:15,640
but but yeah there's video you can find

878
00:42:22,910 --> 00:42:17,080
it on YouTube here and there

879
00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:22,920
so now did you do any other acting

880
00:42:29,790 --> 00:42:26,260
before the x-files what was it all

881
00:42:31,530 --> 00:42:29,800
comedy leading up to that no no I had a

882
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:31,540
degree in theater it was doing the

883
00:42:36,650 --> 00:42:34,240
classics you know the Shakespeare's in

884
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:36,660
the Tennant all that sort of thing and

885
00:42:43,470 --> 00:42:41,680
there's a wasn't very large but

886
00:42:45,450 --> 00:42:43,480
struggling independent theater scene in

887
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:45,460
Vancouver so I did a lot of plays

888
00:42:53,130 --> 00:42:49,210
dramatic plays there as well but then

889
00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:53,140
once the theater sports took off that

890
00:42:57,900 --> 00:42:55,030
would took up I've been doing ten shows

891
00:43:00,300 --> 00:42:57,910
a week for four and a half years so that

892
00:43:02,190 --> 00:43:00,310
really ate up my time and then how did

893
00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:02,200
the x-files happen what happened in

894
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:05,470
between the two well what happened like

895
00:43:10,530 --> 00:43:09,040
all actors you perform at the theater at

896
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:10,540
night then you auditioned during the day

897
00:43:14,850 --> 00:43:13,570
and first season of x-files nobody

898
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:14,860
actually heard of it it wasn't really a

899
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:17,920
big hit it took two three seasons for it

900
00:43:25,290 --> 00:43:20,850
to really get Treach and so right I

901
00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:25,300
auditioned with 35 other people who were

902
00:43:30,690 --> 00:43:28,660
either comedians improvisers or military

903
00:43:34,110 --> 00:43:30,700
skinhead types or they didn't know what

904
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:34,120
they were looking for and we all went in

905
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:37,330
and then they kept bringing me back to

906
00:43:42,510 --> 00:43:39,040
read other parts like I read through

907
00:43:44,910 --> 00:43:42,520
hickeys part at welcome point and then I

908
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:44,920
read against other guys in suits who

909
00:43:48,540 --> 00:43:46,240
were trying to figure out who's gonna be

910
00:43:50,430 --> 00:43:48,550
buyers and then they I had to go through

911
00:43:53,310 --> 00:43:50,440
like five different audition processes

912
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:53,320
and then I find out it's filmy for one

913
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:56,890
day it's a one one day roll so we say

914
00:44:00,330 --> 00:43:58,330
our lines and stuff but then the

915
00:44:02,970 --> 00:44:00,340
Internet in the early days the fans were

916
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:02,980
online on a news group called LTV

917
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:05,680
x-files and when they sawed alone gum

918
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:08,410
and they went completely crazy because

919
00:44:12,030 --> 00:44:10,240
this meant that the writers and

920
00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:12,040
producers were lurking in the news group

921
00:44:16,350 --> 00:44:13,660
and they had these characters to reflect

922
00:44:20,370 --> 00:44:16,360
the culture that they had going on there

923
00:44:23,730 --> 00:44:20,380
so so from that excitement online they

924
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:23,740
kept bringing us back for a one episode

925
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:25,810
at a time and it was until the third

926
00:44:30,030 --> 00:44:27,520
season that we actually said oh you know

927
00:44:30,510 --> 00:44:30,040
what we might be part of this show for

928
00:44:34,260 --> 00:44:30,520
longer

929
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:34,270
that we think what and what okay now

930
00:44:46,370 --> 00:44:36,370
these are the these are the direct

931
00:44:52,010 --> 00:44:49,770
okay so here's here's two theories yes I

932
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:52,020
look like garth from wayne's world and

933
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:54,970
the glasses i had that that long hair

934
00:45:04,860 --> 00:44:58,770
was my actual long hair that i had since

935
00:45:06,750 --> 00:45:04,870
the fifth grade so i he came into the

936
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:06,760
audition like that and then on set the

937
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:08,530
props guy just handed me some Herman

938
00:45:12,570 --> 00:45:10,570
glasses say no here just wear those

939
00:45:14,370 --> 00:45:12,580
that'll be cool and then that was it

940
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:14,380
that was how the look sort of suddenly

941
00:45:23,850 --> 00:45:17,040
developed just as I walked onto camera

942
00:45:28,020 --> 00:45:23,860
so I don't know if that's where Mike

943
00:45:30,090 --> 00:45:28,030
Myers got that idea or because he was in

944
00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:30,100
second city when I wasn't doing stand-up

945
00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:32,740
in Toronto at briefly so I don't know if

946
00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:34,150
he was doing that character on the

947
00:45:39,060 --> 00:45:36,940
second city stage and had a long blonde

948
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:39,070
hair just alert for me back then or did

949
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:40,090
he steal it from me

950
00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:44,410
on x-files but I would have to say you

951
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:50,590
know Garth came after Langley really you

952
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:52,570
know I can't run it down to the actual

953
00:45:57,390 --> 00:45:54,370
days and timelines but that's what I'm

954
00:45:59,850 --> 00:45:57,400
gonna say well you know the the

955
00:46:01,950 --> 00:45:59,860
resemblance is too much on the market

956
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:01,960
it's the t-shirts it's the hair it's the

957
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:04,480
glasses and if you know what came first

958
00:46:09,090 --> 00:46:07,330
the chicken or the egg and everybody's

959
00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:09,100
been asking the same question so you're

960
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:12,430
putting it to bed right now I am I'll

961
00:46:15,450 --> 00:46:14,110
probably catch some flack for it but

962
00:46:18,020 --> 00:46:15,460
I'll put it that's right

963
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:18,030
okay first who picked out the t-shirts

964
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:21,130
well that is the writers believe it or

965
00:46:26,430 --> 00:46:24,400
not Glen Morgan and James Wong

966
00:46:30,570 --> 00:46:26,440
originally wrote the episode where the

967
00:46:33,330 --> 00:46:30,580
gunmen first appear Matt they apparently

968
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:33,340
were in an airport one time and they

969
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:35,650
walked past a table of a guy in a rock

970
00:46:40,220 --> 00:46:37,510
shirt guy no leather jacket and guy in

971
00:46:44,250 --> 00:46:40,230
the suit and they were handing out UFO

972
00:46:46,530 --> 00:46:44,260
conspiracy cover-up literature to people

973
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:46,540
getting on airplanes like I don't know

974
00:46:50,310 --> 00:46:48,970
what airport they were at but they said

975
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:50,320
oh that's hilarious we gotta remember

976
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:52,570
that for one of our scripts that will

977
00:46:57,660 --> 00:46:54,640
right in the future and so they wrote

978
00:47:00,480 --> 00:46:57,670
that and they said specifically that my

979
00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:00,490
character was wearing a Ramones shirt so

980
00:47:05,310 --> 00:47:03,430
so from the early get going I roar

981
00:47:08,940 --> 00:47:05,320
Ramones and that had branched out to do

982
00:47:10,650 --> 00:47:08,950
a and and personality crisis and all

983
00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:10,660
that sort of things yeah yeah yeah I had

984
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:12,670
asked specifically about do a you're

985
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:14,370
saying that the the writers of the show

986
00:47:21,060 --> 00:47:19,450
knew who do a was oh yeah that's so cool

987
00:47:25,710 --> 00:47:21,070
isn't that great they were up in

988
00:47:27,780 --> 00:47:25,720
Vancouver writing and so do a was I

989
00:47:29,970 --> 00:47:27,790
think they were still together but they

990
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:29,980
were disbanding at that point but the

991
00:47:35,340 --> 00:47:32,800
lead singer Joey [\h__\h] was running

992
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:35,350
for mayor in Vancouver around the same

993
00:47:41,220 --> 00:47:37,930
time the show was on so he was getting a

994
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:41,230
lot of publicity as the ex lead singer

995
00:47:45,570 --> 00:47:44,050
of DOA know ready for mayor so that's

996
00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:45,580
probably where the writers first heard

997
00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:47,040
of it and then sort of followed that up

998
00:47:53,070 --> 00:47:50,680
and it must have seriously followed you

999
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:53,080
now when you go to conventions you know

1000
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:54,880
somebody coming up to you with a wig and

1001
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:00,400
a do a shirt seriously yeah do a the Aza

1002
00:48:07,740 --> 00:48:04,810
motley in a couple of times the suicidal

1003
00:48:09,630 --> 00:48:07,750
tendencies had one shirt appear there

1004
00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:09,640
and of course the Ramones I mean the

1005
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:13,270
Ramones that's the one that has been you

1006
00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:16,810
know the most cited and and even the

1007
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:19,240
Ramones themselves have personally

1008
00:48:24,780 --> 00:48:22,210
called me and invited me to Joey's

1009
00:48:25,580 --> 00:48:24,790
posthumous birthday party in the Bowery

1010
00:48:29,130 --> 00:48:25,590
Ballroom

1011
00:48:31,710 --> 00:48:29,140
I remember the suicidal sure - as well

1012
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:31,720
did you get - did you get to get that

1013
00:48:36,090 --> 00:48:33,610
that's suicidal album by the way it's

1014
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:36,100
one of the greatest ever so great yes so

1015
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:38,170
great yeah fantastic let's see how many

1016
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:40,000
paranormal shows can you come on and

1017
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:50,190
in reference to that and that's I and I

1018
00:48:55,230 --> 00:48:52,450
was in a punk rock band - back in high

1019
00:48:58,240 --> 00:48:55,240
school so we were in the worst Canadian

1020
00:49:00,700 --> 00:48:58,250
punk rock band ever

1021
00:49:02,890 --> 00:49:00,710
in the existence of you know and we're

1022
00:49:06,070 --> 00:49:02,900
not the worst in that you were bad we

1023
00:49:10,060 --> 00:49:06,080
were like technically lousy musicians

1024
00:49:12,420 --> 00:49:10,070
and everything so you know I wish if you

1025
00:49:16,359 --> 00:49:12,430
would have gotten here a few years

1026
00:49:17,710 --> 00:49:16,369
earlier here in Hollywood what was going

1027
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:17,720
on here was crazy

1028
00:49:23,290 --> 00:49:21,290
you know you know everybody what he had

1029
00:49:25,630 --> 00:49:23,300
everything from the germs and Siouxsie

1030
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:25,640
and the Banshees and Black Flag and and

1031
00:49:29,890 --> 00:49:26,480
ecstasy

1032
00:49:32,890 --> 00:49:29,900
yeah acts and suicidal you know this

1033
00:49:35,470 --> 00:49:32,900
this was Texan the Horseheads you know

1034
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:35,480
and watch these Raji's on Sunset

1035
00:49:41,650 --> 00:49:37,609
Boulevard or Hollywood Boulevard all

1036
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:41,660
right are down here the 107 yes yes yeah

1037
00:49:45,460 --> 00:49:43,609
yeah that would seem to be a big venue

1038
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:45,470
at the time and even the the Olympic

1039
00:49:52,210 --> 00:49:50,000
theater that side play there just around

1040
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:52,220
the corner from that place I would love

1041
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:53,930
to have seen that as a punk venue back

1042
00:49:59,740 --> 00:49:57,050
then it was all real it was a real scene

1043
00:50:01,420 --> 00:49:59,750
that was really going on and you had to

1044
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:01,430
be authentic you couldn't be a poser

1045
00:50:06,339 --> 00:50:04,010
right and it seems so diverse to like

1046
00:50:08,740 --> 00:50:06,349
the musical styles coming out like they

1047
00:50:10,839 --> 00:50:08,750
weren't so categorized as like oh it's

1048
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:10,849
got to be speed metal or it's you know

1049
00:50:16,660 --> 00:50:14,089
with subgenres of straight edge punk or

1050
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:16,670
DC minor threat you know it was like you

1051
00:50:22,810 --> 00:50:18,290
had this diversity of musical styles

1052
00:50:26,130 --> 00:50:22,820
that because of its authentic this was

1053
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:26,140
allowed to prosper yeah you could go to

1054
00:50:30,550 --> 00:50:29,089
Raji's on Hollywood Boulevard and you

1055
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:30,560
would see you know it was like 10 bands

1056
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:32,000
a night you know you got to play like

1057
00:50:37,210 --> 00:50:34,160
four songs that but you would go in

1058
00:50:40,780 --> 00:50:37,220
there and you would there would be speed

1059
00:50:42,670 --> 00:50:40,790
metal there would be hardcore punk like

1060
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:42,680
the germs and then then you would have

1061
00:50:47,140 --> 00:50:44,330
text in the horse heads you know there's

1062
00:50:49,150 --> 00:50:47,150
that country punt thing going right and

1063
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:49,160
it would be varied all night long and

1064
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:51,050
everybody loved it you just had to be

1065
00:50:56,740 --> 00:50:54,050
real that's all oh that was the only

1066
00:50:58,450 --> 00:50:56,750
credentials you couldn't be fake and and

1067
00:51:01,180 --> 00:50:58,460
it was yeah I was totally totally

1068
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:01,190
diverse and I was a you know I was an

1069
00:51:05,140 --> 00:51:03,290
Eddie Van Halen guitar player my punk

1070
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:05,150
band at the time was called the foam

1071
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:07,520
decoys

1072
00:51:14,990 --> 00:51:13,530
better just picture what the deeper

1073
00:51:18,349 --> 00:51:15,000
meaning of that so are you trying to

1074
00:51:20,620 --> 00:51:18,359
fake foam out he's like I didn't like

1075
00:51:23,180 --> 00:51:20,630
make the foam come to debating with

1076
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:23,190
ebooks not only that you should have

1077
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:24,930
seen our logo not only that we

1078
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:27,690
envisioned ourselves kind of like a

1079
00:51:34,460 --> 00:51:31,290
public image limited you know we had we

1080
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:34,470
had that the Ian Homer was our frontman

1081
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:36,810
who was he he produced the suicidal

1082
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:39,650
record oh you kidding yeah yeah yeah so

1083
00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:42,690
so he was our singer and then Pat Mack

1084
00:51:46,940 --> 00:51:44,910
our bass player was really incredible we

1085
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:46,950
had this other guy Anthony Portillo on

1086
00:51:53,060 --> 00:51:49,770
drums so Anthony was like a John Bonham

1087
00:51:56,510 --> 00:51:53,070
guy Pat Mack was a hardcore punk or

1088
00:52:00,560 --> 00:51:56,520
hardcore Ian Homer was the the punk

1089
00:52:02,570 --> 00:52:00,570
frontman classic style guy and you know

1090
00:52:05,540 --> 00:52:02,580
envisioned him he's like a Darby Crash

1091
00:52:08,780 --> 00:52:05,550
germs kind of guy uh-huh then you had me

1092
00:52:12,530 --> 00:52:08,790
this progressive Steve Vai Eddie Van

1093
00:52:13,250 --> 00:52:12,540
Halen wannabe guitar player but it

1094
00:52:15,859 --> 00:52:13,260
worked

1095
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:15,869
you know guys look like did you all have

1096
00:52:20,060 --> 00:52:18,210
to spike your hair or did you do oh no

1097
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:20,070
everybody was all Punk I was the only

1098
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:22,710
guy wearing hair spray and I did my best

1099
00:52:34,580 --> 00:52:31,920
to get accepted man boys like music be

1100
00:52:40,849 --> 00:52:34,590
about technically well you know like I

1101
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:40,859
said we were we were imagine you know

1102
00:52:46,849 --> 00:52:43,680
the Sex Pistols meets van Halen you know

1103
00:52:49,490 --> 00:52:46,859
it was kind of like that it was so you

1104
00:52:53,420 --> 00:52:49,500
had a like a little pop edge to to a

1105
00:52:55,370 --> 00:52:53,430
grungy like a thicker sound yeah and you

1106
00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:55,380
know which which took off ten years

1107
00:53:00,650 --> 00:52:58,650
later actually they had we known you

1108
00:53:02,210 --> 00:53:00,660
know what kind of like what Green Day

1109
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:02,220
turned into you know kind of like that

1110
00:53:08,140 --> 00:53:05,010
yeah yeah yeah and it was fine man it

1111
00:53:10,609 --> 00:53:08,150
was just I look back we were broke

1112
00:53:12,970 --> 00:53:10,619
everybody you know and I look back and

1113
00:53:15,530 --> 00:53:12,980
those were the warmest fondest memories

1114
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:15,540
absolutely our bass player was so broke

1115
00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:17,609
he couldn't afford the case for the bass

1116
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:20,790
guitar so he had the cardboard box

1117
00:53:24,650 --> 00:53:22,800
that he came in from the department

1118
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:24,660
store where he bought it and he brought

1119
00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:26,850
that on the bus and we went to gigs by

1120
00:53:32,930 --> 00:53:30,630
drum public transit and and so he just

1121
00:53:35,810 --> 00:53:32,940
had the cardboard box under his arm and

1122
00:53:37,370 --> 00:53:35,820
then we walked into a gig like that and

1123
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:37,380
he couldn't even no forget the you know

1124
00:53:41,210 --> 00:53:38,970
the bumper stickers of other bands and

1125
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:41,220
stuff yeah so he would just draw them on

1126
00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:44,730
with felt marker on the cardboard box so

1127
00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:47,910
try to look like a punk bass guitar that

1128
00:53:55,790 --> 00:53:52,470
is so cool that's how broke we were

1129
00:53:57,380 --> 00:53:55,800
that's that's that's so Punk oh I'll

1130
00:53:59,300 --> 00:53:57,390
tell you a quick story and we're all

1131
00:54:02,530 --> 00:53:59,310
against a break and then we'll get to

1132
00:54:06,650 --> 00:54:02,540
the good stuff after the break but okay

1133
00:54:08,990 --> 00:54:06,660
this is why we do this show I was with

1134
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:09,000
Steve Jones up at his house right okay

1135
00:54:13,460 --> 00:54:11,280
and he lives in Hollywood Hills at the

1136
00:54:16,250 --> 00:54:13,470
time I'm sure he's still there and we're

1137
00:54:17,660 --> 00:54:16,260
kicking it in his living room and I

1138
00:54:20,270 --> 00:54:17,670
turned to him and I said you know what

1139
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:20,280
I've just I just got to ask you a couple

1140
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:22,110
of questions now man go ahead Jimmy it's

1141
00:54:27,260 --> 00:54:24,090
alright I said to teach you guys have

1142
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:27,270
any clue that you were gonna change the

1143
00:54:35,170 --> 00:54:32,690
world he goes man we wanted beer money

1144
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:35,180
[Music]

1145
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:39,510
we wrote and played for beer money well

1146
00:54:44,030 --> 00:54:41,250
and how cool is that

1147
00:54:49,820 --> 00:54:44,040
that's pond so oh oh my god that's so

1148
00:54:51,260 --> 00:54:49,830
POG man alright let's let's we got a

1149
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:51,270
couple of minutes I'll warm up for the

1150
00:54:57,380 --> 00:54:55,200
break I would do want to know when you

1151
00:54:59,450 --> 00:54:57,390
first got into this or but I want you to

1152
00:55:01,640 --> 00:54:59,460
think about it after the break okay as

1153
00:55:04,730 --> 00:55:01,650
you got into the x-files and things

1154
00:55:08,090 --> 00:55:04,740
started to pick up steam it's the same

1155
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:08,100
question that I threw at Steve Jones did

1156
00:55:13,130 --> 00:55:11,520
you guys have any idea any idea on set

1157
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:13,140
that you guys were about to change

1158
00:55:18,590 --> 00:55:16,050
Hollywood in the world and and know that

1159
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:18,600
here we are 20 years later 15 years

1160
00:55:25,310 --> 00:55:22,050
later 20 the leg lady yeah yes 20 years

1161
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:25,320
ago 93 yeah yeah think about that that

1162
00:55:31,790 --> 00:55:28,880
here we would be you know 20 years later

1163
00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:31,800
that kind of legacy is behind you and

1164
00:55:37,150 --> 00:55:33,710
how you guys certainly change

1165
00:55:39,370 --> 00:55:37,160
entire generation and what guy what kind

1166
00:55:41,170 --> 00:55:39,380
of pressure is that my brother I know I

1167
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:41,180
have to think that we're now I could

1168
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:42,650
talk about the show for the comfort of

1169
00:55:47,079 --> 00:55:45,170
my own home and you know laptop we're

1170
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:47,089
all connected through internet like all

1171
00:55:52,109 --> 00:55:49,280
of that you know wrapping your head

1172
00:55:54,970 --> 00:55:52,119
around that it's pretty phenomenal it's

1173
00:55:56,260 --> 00:55:54,980
unbelievable it really is so we'll talk

1174
00:55:56,650 --> 00:55:56,270
about that when we come back after the

1175
00:56:00,010 --> 00:55:56,660
break

1176
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:00,020
this says fade to black the spoke radio

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00:56:04,780 --> 00:56:02,690
for the masses tonight Dean Haglund is

1178
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:04,790
with us for the duration I'm gonna talk

1179
00:56:07,150 --> 00:56:06,710
him into taking some phone calls to in a

1180
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:07,160
little bit

1181
00:56:10,270 --> 00:56:08,930
this is fade to black I'm your host

1182
00:56:11,230 --> 00:56:10,280
Jimmy Church we'll be back right after

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00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:11,240
this stay with us

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00:56:17,110 --> 00:56:26,920
[Music]

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00:56:33,799 --> 00:56:30,099
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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00:56:37,849 --> 00:56:33,809
you're listening to fade to black I'll

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00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:37,859
turn into Talk K GRA this is Jimmy

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00:56:41,150 --> 00:56:39,210
Church a fade to black

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1232
00:58:49,739 --> 00:58:44,469
with Jimmy Church on the game change in

1233
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:49,749
network hi I'm Lisa Vance your listings

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00:58:55,499 --> 00:58:52,690
Jimmy Church this is revolution the

1235
00:59:03,500 --> 00:58:55,509
revolution will not be televised the

1236
00:59:03,510 --> 00:59:40,359
[Music]

1237
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:43,599
all right welcome back fade to black the

1238
00:59:46,690 --> 00:59:45,920
Wednesday edition tonight Dean Haglund

1239
00:59:56,349 --> 00:59:46,700
is with us

1240
00:59:58,930 --> 00:59:56,359
I'm your host Jimmy church Wow the old

1241
01:00:02,079 --> 00:59:58,940
Google search for foam decoy Punk bed

1242
01:00:08,410 --> 01:00:02,089
how do would you find I found Punk Jake

1243
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:08,420
turkey decoy well you know I can there

1244
01:00:11,499 --> 01:00:09,650
are some pictures

1245
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:11,509
I'll have them tweeted out right now

1246
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:13,130
somebody tweet the picture of me and the

1247
01:00:20,349 --> 01:00:16,490
shorts and the flame guitar with my

1248
01:00:21,849 --> 01:00:20,359
grandmother's curtains and and when you

1249
01:00:24,009 --> 01:00:21,859
look at this picture it'll post on

1250
01:00:26,019 --> 01:00:24,019
Twitter here in a bit and that picture

1251
01:00:28,660 --> 01:00:26,029
was taken at the foam decoy

1252
01:00:31,900 --> 01:00:28,670
rehearsal studio on Hollywood and

1253
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:31,910
Western and which was at the Hollywood

1254
01:00:36,789 --> 01:00:33,680
and Western billiards building and

1255
01:00:40,660 --> 01:00:36,799
that's where it all went down in the in

1256
01:00:42,190 --> 01:00:40,670
the mid to late 80s right there so when

1257
01:00:46,210 --> 01:00:42,200
you check this picture out you're gonna

1258
01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:46,220
die laughing so now listen I picture

1259
01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:48,079
this is this is the deal and this is

1260
01:00:55,870 --> 01:00:50,480
what you've got going for you and and

1261
01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:55,880
you are in the 1/10 1/100 of 1% I'll in

1262
01:01:01,900 --> 01:00:58,880
all of Hollywood in that you're at the

1263
01:01:04,809 --> 01:01:01,910
old old actors retirement home sunny

1264
01:01:06,370 --> 01:01:04,819
village in Burbank right in another 20

1265
01:01:09,609 --> 01:01:06,380
years you got you guys are playing

1266
01:01:13,630 --> 01:01:09,619
dominoes and pinochle right some guy

1267
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:13,640
says hey you know I I was on the Golden

1268
01:01:17,739 --> 01:01:15,200
Girls whatever you know the next guy's

1269
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:17,749
right and you're gonna go well you know

1270
01:01:26,940 --> 01:01:20,210
you know I was one of the lone gunmen on

1271
01:01:34,299 --> 01:01:30,489
yes it is and and did you guys have any

1272
01:01:37,420 --> 01:01:34,309
idea on the set so early on that this

1273
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:37,430
kind of momentous success which is rare

1274
01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:39,920
in Hollywood was about to happen what

1275
01:01:45,309 --> 01:01:42,319
was the vibe well the vibe was even

1276
01:01:47,979 --> 01:01:45,319
rarer in Vancouver because you know

1277
01:01:54,130 --> 01:01:47,989
Vancouver up till that point had a lot

1278
01:01:58,960 --> 01:01:56,440
you know stuff that you would never

1279
01:02:02,319 --> 01:01:58,970
watch the unsub you remember show

1280
01:02:07,180 --> 01:02:02,329
Cullen's accident yep yeah like all of

1281
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:07,190
these kind of low-budget that toss offs

1282
01:02:11,829 --> 01:02:09,170
that we're like oh you know so you think

1283
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:11,839
oh we're on another procedural but but

1284
01:02:18,269 --> 01:02:13,760
no one knew was this Chris Carter feller

1285
01:02:21,370 --> 01:02:18,279
and how dedicated he was to quality

1286
01:02:23,799 --> 01:02:21,380
workmanship not just in writing and in

1287
01:02:26,410 --> 01:02:23,809
the directing but in all the departments

1288
01:02:28,750 --> 01:02:26,420
you know he had the lighting guys swing

1289
01:02:30,609 --> 01:02:28,760
for the fences to do you know where else

1290
01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:30,619
but you never saw before that in

1291
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:32,240
television where the where the blacks

1292
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:34,490
would be so black and they'd be you know

1293
01:02:40,359 --> 01:02:38,450
really overexposed front lights and you

1294
01:02:42,940 --> 01:02:40,369
know and lights into the camera and all

1295
01:02:46,839 --> 01:02:42,950
that sort of thing and so the look was

1296
01:02:48,910 --> 01:02:46,849
different the the director was different

1297
01:02:51,339 --> 01:02:48,920
everything about it was so different but

1298
01:02:53,259 --> 01:02:51,349
you know we didn't know the first season

1299
01:02:56,529 --> 01:02:53,269
in second season the ratings were still

1300
01:02:59,499 --> 01:02:56,539
low and you know maybe we thought that

1301
01:03:01,059 --> 01:02:59,509
it was just too experimental for the

1302
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:01,069
present-day audience and it wasn't until

1303
01:03:05,740 --> 01:03:03,410
the New Yorker second season wrote an

1304
01:03:07,569 --> 01:03:05,750
article about how fantastic they loved

1305
01:03:09,999 --> 01:03:07,579
the show that really began to get some

1306
01:03:13,390 --> 01:03:10,009
traction and really take off after that

1307
01:03:15,789 --> 01:03:13,400
so oh go ahead go ahead yeah so nobody

1308
01:03:18,700 --> 01:03:15,799
had any idea and even we're a bit

1309
01:03:20,829 --> 01:03:18,710
discouraged actually in the first year a

1310
01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:20,839
year and a half of working on it

1311
01:03:24,309 --> 01:03:22,400
well yeah you always you're always

1312
01:03:27,549 --> 01:03:24,319
wondering what the suits are gonna do

1313
01:03:29,289 --> 01:03:27,559
you know if you're gonna show up on set

1314
01:03:32,829 --> 01:03:29,299
one day and they say what you know what

1315
01:03:35,950 --> 01:03:32,839
we're done the result was that fear

1316
01:03:37,269 --> 01:03:35,960
because you know Peter Roth was the head

1317
01:03:40,390 --> 01:03:37,279
of Fox at the time and he was really

1318
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:40,400
supportive of the show and it was a

1319
01:03:44,499 --> 01:03:42,170
Friday night spot like think of that

1320
01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:44,509
there was like a TV show on a Friday

1321
01:03:51,549 --> 01:03:47,569
night which is notoriously a ratings

1322
01:03:53,049 --> 01:03:51,559
dumping ground and and so there's that

1323
01:03:55,499 --> 01:03:53,059
for the longest time till it moved to

1324
01:03:58,150 --> 01:03:55,509
Sundays but but you know eventually

1325
01:04:00,370 --> 01:03:58,160
word-of-mouth hit it and then it was

1326
01:04:02,410 --> 01:04:00,380
still a time when families would gather

1327
01:04:04,059 --> 01:04:02,420
and watch TV together on a Friday night

1328
01:04:06,220 --> 01:04:04,069
you know everything would stop and they

1329
01:04:08,260 --> 01:04:06,230
would all sit on the couch together and

1330
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:08,270
it was a show that you know Graham

1331
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:09,770
could watch and little kids could watch

1332
01:04:13,660 --> 01:04:11,570
for the scary monsters and there was

1333
01:04:15,670 --> 01:04:13,670
something for everyone in that show so

1334
01:04:19,270 --> 01:04:15,680
it was kind of neat how that all came

1335
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:19,280
together yeah I for me during the first

1336
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:21,890
season I just thought this is it's the

1337
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:24,890
perfect show for me and my for this is

1338
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:27,770
exactly what I want to see and it's not

1339
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:30,290
gonna last this is gonna can't this is

1340
01:04:34,450 --> 01:04:31,970
you know that's the way that I felt but

1341
01:04:36,550 --> 01:04:34,460
it just kept going and going and you

1342
01:04:38,770 --> 01:04:36,560
know what though I'll say this the

1343
01:04:40,630 --> 01:04:38,780
writing got better too after the first

1344
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:40,640
season when the second season kicked in

1345
01:04:45,730 --> 01:04:43,250
and going into the third season you guys

1346
01:04:48,250 --> 01:04:45,740
were really starting to click on all

1347
01:04:52,090 --> 01:04:48,260
cylinders absolutely and you know oddly

1348
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:52,100
enough one of the circumstances that I

1349
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:55,490
think made that happen was Gillian

1350
01:04:59,410 --> 01:04:57,410
Anderson getting pregnant in the first

1351
01:05:01,810 --> 01:04:59,420
season and so they had to figure her way

1352
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:01,820
to right around her and write her out of

1353
01:05:07,900 --> 01:05:04,970
the show and so her abduction suddenly

1354
01:05:10,270 --> 01:05:07,910
became this overreaching story arc that

1355
01:05:11,950 --> 01:05:10,280
they had not planned before now every TV

1356
01:05:14,590 --> 01:05:11,960
show does that they have like a lawn

1357
01:05:16,420 --> 01:05:14,600
long story arc in it and originally it

1358
01:05:20,020 --> 01:05:16,430
was just gonna be kind of a standalone

1359
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:20,030
monster of the week right and then all

1360
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:23,090
of a sudden now you had Scully who's

1361
01:05:26,980 --> 01:05:25,250
been abducted she's not a believer and

1362
01:05:31,420 --> 01:05:26,990
why was she abducted and then you have

1363
01:05:32,830 --> 01:05:31,430
this human alien genetic experiment

1364
01:05:35,530 --> 01:05:32,840
going on and all of that sort of thing

1365
01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:35,540
so you so this kind of Lucky accidents

1366
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:37,990
allowed the writers to sort of improvise

1367
01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:42,110
on the paper each and every week as they

1368
01:05:46,990 --> 01:05:43,910
had to work around circumstances and

1369
01:05:50,530 --> 01:05:47,000
limitations and she's speaking of punker

1370
01:05:53,350 --> 01:05:50,540
she's hardcore she's hardcore yes she

1371
01:05:55,870 --> 01:05:53,360
was living on st. Mark's and in

1372
01:06:00,430 --> 01:05:55,880
Manhattan at the height of it working at

1373
01:06:03,070 --> 01:06:00,440
a used clothing store and doing a spoken

1374
01:06:07,990 --> 01:06:03,080
word angry spoken word poetry with spiky

1375
01:06:10,690 --> 01:06:08,000
hair yeah she was in it was so hardcore

1376
01:06:12,490 --> 01:06:10,700
yeah I remember the first time I saw a

1377
01:06:17,410 --> 01:06:12,500
couple of her tats I was like wait what

1378
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:17,420
what would an incredible actress to you

1379
01:06:22,030 --> 01:06:20,930
know that's the thing is the x-files was

1380
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:22,040
maybe here second

1381
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:25,730
third professional gig ever and you know

1382
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:27,650
just rocketed to start him like that and

1383
01:06:32,260 --> 01:06:29,450
then when she moved to London she really

1384
01:06:35,410 --> 01:06:32,270
got a chance to do a play she did you

1385
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:35,420
know what the night is for and streetcar

1386
01:06:40,030 --> 01:06:37,970
named desire on the West End and really

1387
01:06:43,570 --> 01:06:40,040
now has developed into a really

1388
01:06:47,170 --> 01:06:43,580
incredible actress you know oh yeah

1389
01:06:52,690 --> 01:06:47,180
never never be never be racist when it

1390
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:52,700
comes to punkers you know when I could

1391
01:06:57,370 --> 01:06:54,890
just see her in full Punk garb you know

1392
01:06:59,020 --> 01:06:57,380
the the leather jacket how she normally

1393
01:07:01,620 --> 01:06:59,030
dresses when she's not on set and

1394
01:07:05,020 --> 01:07:01,630
walking to some place and have some

1395
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:05,030
jaded person think to themselves as they

1396
01:07:09,150 --> 01:07:05,690
check her out

1397
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:09,160
how do you get a job a dress like that

1398
01:07:17,110 --> 01:07:15,050
yeah yeah what doesn't make sense and

1399
01:07:19,510 --> 01:07:17,120
now of course you know it's in every

1400
01:07:27,730 --> 01:07:19,520
store like that right well you know I

1401
01:07:29,860 --> 01:07:27,740
could get on the x-files and even

1402
01:07:31,540 --> 01:07:29,870
weirder if you look at the you know

1403
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:31,550
early trading cards and some of the

1404
01:07:35,970 --> 01:07:33,650
promotional stuff of the first season

1405
01:07:38,020 --> 01:07:35,980
she was actually made to be dowdy

1406
01:07:41,290 --> 01:07:38,030
believe it or not like they made her

1407
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:41,300
hair sort of like a Midwestern housewife

1408
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:44,330
II and absolutely glad and like nobody

1409
01:07:49,540 --> 01:07:46,850
realized what kind of bombshell she was

1410
01:07:52,870 --> 01:07:49,550
gonna turn into because there was gonna

1411
01:07:57,700 --> 01:07:52,880
be you know hunky believer and then the

1412
01:08:00,160 --> 01:07:57,710
skeptic who is this sort of dowdy FBI go

1413
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:00,170
by the book agent sort of thing and then

1414
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:02,290
all of a sudden all of that started

1415
01:08:06,010 --> 01:08:04,610
transitioning and their personalities

1416
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:06,020
developed and then the writers started

1417
01:08:10,990 --> 01:08:09,200
writing towards those strengths and then

1418
01:08:14,260 --> 01:08:11,000
the next thing that happens you know

1419
01:08:16,750 --> 01:08:14,270
success starts to kick off yeah money

1420
01:08:23,140 --> 01:08:16,760
starts rolling in and I'm assuming that

1421
01:08:24,610 --> 01:08:23,150
everybody's scale went up right some

1422
01:08:27,460 --> 01:08:24,620
have better agents than others that's

1423
01:08:29,740 --> 01:08:27,470
all I'm saying oh okay well we don't

1424
01:08:32,590 --> 01:08:29,750
need to go there but but what but what

1425
01:08:35,370 --> 01:08:32,600
does happen is you know you now you have

1426
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:35,380
the ability to bring in you

1427
01:08:40,620 --> 01:08:37,690
more writers more production value

1428
01:08:43,290 --> 01:08:40,630
you've got you know assistance from the

1429
01:08:45,480 --> 01:08:43,300
studio you have money and the the sets

1430
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:45,490
are more extravagant absolutely and

1431
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:47,290
things started really to build up from

1432
01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:49,690
there which enables a better show right

1433
01:08:54,750 --> 01:08:52,150
absolutely ad so true if you think about

1434
01:08:56,610 --> 01:08:54,760
that episode where the submarine lives

1435
01:08:59,730 --> 01:08:56,620
up through the ice that was done inside

1436
01:09:03,810 --> 01:08:59,740
a studio where they refrigerated an

1437
01:09:06,599 --> 01:09:03,820
entire skating rink basically and built

1438
01:09:07,020 --> 01:09:06,609
a submarine under the ice on a hydraulic

1439
01:09:09,930 --> 01:09:07,030
lift

1440
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:09,940
so first the set was built then they

1441
01:09:13,500 --> 01:09:11,770
flooded it then they froze it for three

1442
01:09:16,830 --> 01:09:13,510
days then they went in there to shoot

1443
01:09:19,860 --> 01:09:16,840
and then in one take the the submarine

1444
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:19,870
stack comes through the ice that was not

1445
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:21,370
a special effect that wasn't digital

1446
01:09:26,310 --> 01:09:23,770
that was an actual giant refrigerated

1447
01:09:28,050 --> 01:09:26,320
studio at the time and television

1448
01:09:30,050 --> 01:09:28,060
unheard of that you would go to that

1449
01:09:32,490 --> 01:09:30,060
kind of links for those kind of effects

1450
01:09:35,130 --> 01:09:32,500
okay I'm gonna say this real quick to

1451
01:09:38,340 --> 01:09:35,140
Bob he just tweeted the picture of me

1452
01:09:41,790 --> 01:09:38,350
and the band bombed a decoy now Bob

1453
01:09:45,450 --> 01:09:41,800
tweet this to Dean which is at D

1454
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:45,460
Hagglund so he can see this in Twitter I

1455
01:09:50,340 --> 01:09:47,440
would do it but then I can't talk at the

1456
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:50,350
same time yeah yeah I could never sing

1457
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:52,480
backup vocals and play guitar either so

1458
01:09:58,590 --> 01:09:56,890
that's wait till you see this picture so

1459
01:10:02,400 --> 01:09:58,600
that's who that's who's doing this

1460
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:02,410
interview now boy life changes now okay

1461
01:10:11,940 --> 01:10:08,970
so did does Chris Carter know something

1462
01:10:14,010 --> 01:10:11,950
isn't it yeah is he is is there

1463
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:14,020
something going on there and and would

1464
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:16,480
you tell me if you knew well you know

1465
01:10:20,010 --> 01:10:18,250
it's so funny because I was doing

1466
01:10:22,890 --> 01:10:20,020
stand-up while the show was on the air

1467
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:22,900
and I would travel around North America

1468
01:10:27,570 --> 01:10:25,650
doing clubs and after the show

1469
01:10:28,890 --> 01:10:27,580
invariably everybody would come up and

1470
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:28,900
talk about the show but there would also

1471
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:33,250
be ex military officials and FBI agents

1472
01:10:37,950 --> 01:10:35,770
recent retired and some working that

1473
01:10:40,170 --> 01:10:37,960
would come up and they would say the

1474
01:10:42,780 --> 01:10:40,180
same thing how are you getting this

1475
01:10:45,990 --> 01:10:42,790
information into your shows and and who

1476
01:10:47,090 --> 01:10:46,000
was supplying it like because they they

1477
01:10:49,169 --> 01:10:47,100
couldn't say anything but it was

1478
01:10:52,890 --> 01:10:49,179
supremely accurate

1479
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:52,900
shockingly to detail and all of them

1480
01:10:54,990 --> 01:10:54,370
were just kind of shaking their head and

1481
01:10:57,810 --> 01:10:55,000
looking at me

1482
01:11:02,630 --> 01:10:57,820
askew wondering how we did what we did

1483
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:02,640
because some things when you look at

1484
01:11:08,490 --> 01:11:06,250
Spielberg and and some of the other

1485
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:08,500
great directors that that seem a little

1486
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:10,690
like there's some knowledge there that

1487
01:11:17,459 --> 01:11:14,650
something is being fed Chris Carter just

1488
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:17,469
seemed to be on to something and it's

1489
01:11:23,550 --> 01:11:20,650
not only when you're in our genre we

1490
01:11:25,620 --> 01:11:23,560
know things but and so we know when some

1491
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:25,630
somebody else knows something and when

1492
01:11:29,459 --> 01:11:27,489
they were onto something and Chris

1493
01:11:34,169 --> 01:11:29,469
Carter had that in spades and that

1494
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:34,179
causes conspiracy right well exactly so

1495
01:11:48,500 --> 01:11:37,330
he I'm sorry I've been distracted by

1496
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:51,390
well Chris Carter based the show on coal

1497
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:52,810
check the night stocker and he loved

1498
01:11:57,570 --> 01:11:54,730
that show if you remember that was

1499
01:11:59,250 --> 01:11:57,580
Darren McGavin I love every every

1500
01:12:01,709 --> 01:11:59,260
episode every episode and there were

1501
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:01,719
vampires werewolves and all that sort of

1502
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:03,489
thing so he was trying to create that

1503
01:12:08,610 --> 01:12:06,640
but at the same time Frank Spotnitz

1504
01:12:11,070 --> 01:12:08,620
Vince Gilligan who went on to do

1505
01:12:13,919 --> 01:12:11,080
Breaking Bad and better call Saul

1506
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:13,929
Jon Shimon these were the main writers

1507
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:18,850
and all of them had vivid libraries in

1508
01:12:22,939 --> 01:12:21,010
their book in their writing rooms that

1509
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:22,949
were most unusual not your regular

1510
01:12:26,610 --> 01:12:25,330
screen writers writing rooms yeah you

1511
01:12:28,620 --> 01:12:26,620
know that they didn't have the CID

1512
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:28,630
fields how to write a screenplay didn't

1513
01:12:34,729 --> 01:12:32,170
have you know 30 scenes from 30 movies

1514
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:34,739
or anything like that they had like the

1515
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:38,489
rituals of Mithra and they have to

1516
01:12:43,229 --> 01:12:40,449
diecut a-p-d

1517
01:12:45,870 --> 01:12:43,239
contaminate a radioactive field you know

1518
01:12:48,899 --> 01:12:45,880
like weird books like that in their in

1519
01:12:49,950 --> 01:12:48,909
their library and when I would go in I

1520
01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:49,960
said why do you have these I don't you

1521
01:12:53,070 --> 01:12:51,670
never know you know one of these little

1522
01:12:55,919 --> 01:12:53,080
things might pop in our head and we'd

1523
01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:55,929
include it in the show fry so so it was

1524
01:13:02,939 --> 01:12:58,449
their expansive knowledge that seemed to

1525
01:13:05,549 --> 01:13:02,949
coalesce into the Zeke Geist at the time

1526
01:13:09,979 --> 01:13:05,559
so I don't know you know there was never

1527
01:13:12,719 --> 01:13:09,989
any men in black walking around dropping

1528
01:13:16,589 --> 01:13:12,729
script off in the office when I was

1529
01:13:19,169 --> 01:13:16,599
hanging out there but but for sure there

1530
01:13:21,839 --> 01:13:19,179
was you know well that was that was

1531
01:13:26,430 --> 01:13:21,849
always the rumor on the street you know

1532
01:13:32,939 --> 01:13:26,440
that that the the that the x-files

1533
01:13:35,850 --> 01:13:32,949
themselves were used to warm up humanity

1534
01:13:38,609 --> 01:13:35,860
for the for the knowledge of that was

1535
01:13:41,790 --> 01:13:38,619
forthcoming right dated that this is

1536
01:13:45,209 --> 01:13:41,800
here and this is this is DC and the CIA

1537
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:45,219
and and the NSA pumping in information

1538
01:13:49,890 --> 01:13:47,650
to the masses getting him warmed up for

1539
01:13:54,209 --> 01:13:49,900
the shock of what's about to come right

1540
01:13:56,790 --> 01:13:54,219
at the same time there was a Perry

1541
01:13:59,189 --> 01:13:56,800
Farrell from Jane's Addiction and porno

1542
01:14:03,810 --> 01:13:59,199
for Pyro's who thought just the opposite

1543
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:03,820
he thought that by popularizing UFOs and

1544
01:14:08,279 --> 01:14:06,400
aliens you diminish those who are taking

1545
01:14:09,899 --> 01:14:08,289
it seriously because they can be now

1546
01:14:12,810 --> 01:14:09,909
written off as someone who just watches

1547
01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:12,820
too much TV so in fact he refused to

1548
01:14:19,500 --> 01:14:17,440
play on the first x-files album of 25

1549
01:14:21,989 --> 01:14:19,510
bands that were just doing music based

1550
01:14:24,779 --> 01:14:21,999
inspired from the x-files and he refused

1551
01:14:26,759 --> 01:14:24,789
because and his direct quote was the

1552
01:14:29,189 --> 01:14:26,769
x-files has set back human alien

1553
01:14:31,620 --> 01:14:29,199
relations by 20 years it isn't that the

1554
01:14:33,299 --> 01:14:31,630
same message though isn't it the exact

1555
01:14:37,049 --> 01:14:33,309
same thing you're communicating to the

1556
01:14:40,290 --> 01:14:37,059
masses to have an effect and that's

1557
01:14:45,509 --> 01:14:40,300
that's perils take on it and you know

1558
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:45,519
our Perry Farrell I said Perry and you

1559
01:14:50,399 --> 01:14:47,650
know by the way I'll jump into this

1560
01:14:53,279 --> 01:14:50,409
do you remember downtown the China Club

1561
01:14:56,850 --> 01:14:53,289
in LA were you here for that yes just

1562
01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:56,860
when it closed I was first oh man so at

1563
01:15:01,049 --> 01:14:59,920
the Roosevelt Hotel down there in which

1564
01:15:04,859 --> 01:15:01,059
was an incredible venue

1565
01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:04,869
I saw Jane's Addiction at 4 o'clock in

1566
01:15:11,459 --> 01:15:07,840
the morning in the same room yeah yeah

1567
01:15:13,169 --> 01:15:11,469
and there was a two-hour gap between I

1568
01:15:16,169 --> 01:15:13,179
think it was the Red Hot Chili Peppers

1569
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:16,179
and then and then Jane's Addiction

1570
01:15:21,090 --> 01:15:16,810
because

1571
01:15:24,210 --> 01:15:21,100
the club ran out of beer and you know

1572
01:15:27,530 --> 01:15:24,220
how big that place was right thousands

1573
01:15:31,530 --> 01:15:27,540
of people yeah they ran out of beer and

1574
01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:31,540
so but somehow they pulled it off and

1575
01:15:36,780 --> 01:15:34,270
got alcohol into the venue and James

1576
01:15:42,570 --> 01:15:36,790
addiction hit the stage at 4:00 4:30 in

1577
01:15:47,730 --> 01:15:42,580
the morning I don't know how I got into

1578
01:15:51,300 --> 01:15:47,740
that but that was like 1988 I'm gonna

1579
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:51,310
say 88 yeah after but so back to Perry

1580
01:15:55,230 --> 01:15:53,050
Farrell's comments and I remember those

1581
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:55,240
I remember those comments and yeah it's

1582
01:15:59,730 --> 01:15:57,250
again it's really even though it seems

1583
01:16:03,240 --> 01:15:59,740
like it's the opposite it's still using

1584
01:16:05,670 --> 01:16:03,250
the x-files to control the masses and

1585
01:16:08,430 --> 01:16:05,680
that's what he was saying and and it all

1586
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:08,440
feeds into this giant conspiracy behind

1587
01:16:14,250 --> 01:16:10,690
the x-files and were you guys concerned

1588
01:16:17,250 --> 01:16:14,260
about that on the set no not really

1589
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:17,260
everybody was really more compelled to

1590
01:16:22,050 --> 01:16:19,810
to you know the best storytelling that

1591
01:16:24,660 --> 01:16:22,060
they could they would get the scripts

1592
01:16:26,850 --> 01:16:24,670
and you know you work 16-hour days and

1593
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:26,860
so with your nose to the grindstone you

1594
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:28,690
couldn't really step back to take a look

1595
01:16:34,050 --> 01:16:30,970
at the bigger picture and the influence

1596
01:16:36,690 --> 01:16:34,060
on society at large till you know you

1597
01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:36,700
like myself go to a comedy club over in

1598
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:39,310
New York or Fort Wayne Indiana or

1599
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:41,110
something and then see how it's

1600
01:16:47,070 --> 01:16:42,640
reverberating with the people at large

1601
01:16:49,620 --> 01:16:47,080
but but yeah so at if that was never

1602
01:16:51,870 --> 01:16:49,630
really discussed amongst everybody

1603
01:16:53,250 --> 01:16:51,880
working but it certainly was discussed

1604
01:16:55,770 --> 01:16:53,260
afterwards and a lot of people would

1605
01:16:58,020 --> 01:16:55,780
come up to me including this woman who

1606
01:16:59,930 --> 01:16:58,030
said oh you know I'm a psychic and I saw

1607
01:17:01,800 --> 01:16:59,940
Chris Carter at a Hollywood party

1608
01:17:02,820 --> 01:17:01,810
standing in the corner and I went up to

1609
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:02,830
him and I said whatever you're working

1610
01:17:06,900 --> 01:17:04,960
on is gonna make you a ton of money and

1611
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:06,910
she said that was like six months before

1612
01:17:11,070 --> 01:17:09,610
the x-files got picked up and I said all

1613
01:17:13,170 --> 01:17:11,080
what we doing in a Hollywood party goes

1614
01:17:15,780 --> 01:17:13,180
well this was weird I was hired by the

1615
01:17:17,820 --> 01:17:15,790
CIA to go to Hollywood parties and just

1616
01:17:19,500 --> 01:17:17,830
hang out and then I would just email

1617
01:17:22,710 --> 01:17:19,510
back what I talked about you know all

1618
01:17:27,540 --> 01:17:22,720
evening so did did did do you think

1619
01:17:29,370 --> 01:17:27,550
Chris knows something yeah you know I

1620
01:17:31,260 --> 01:17:29,380
don't think he does

1621
01:17:34,050 --> 01:17:31,270
I think he really is an artist

1622
01:17:36,810 --> 01:17:34,060
that connected either unconsciously or

1623
01:17:41,730 --> 01:17:36,820
subconsciously to a larger thing that

1624
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:41,740
was going on and and like artists do you

1625
01:17:48,450 --> 01:17:44,730
know they they hit something that

1626
01:17:52,830 --> 01:17:48,460
resonates so amazingly because there's a

1627
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:52,840
chunk of truth to it and I think it was

1628
01:17:58,440 --> 01:17:55,930
subconscious I think it was really one

1629
01:18:00,420 --> 01:17:58,450
of the great artists you know of the

1630
01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:00,430
time that does that that hits upon

1631
01:18:06,270 --> 01:18:03,070
something that reverberates so deeply

1632
01:18:08,820 --> 01:18:06,280
that it becomes a major hit so now it

1633
01:18:11,670 --> 01:18:08,830
does take off and now let's go to like

1634
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:11,680
six seasons in sevens now every

1635
01:18:16,470 --> 01:18:13,600
conspiracy there everybody is on board

1636
01:18:18,500 --> 01:18:16,480
now right they're watching it every week

1637
01:18:24,060 --> 01:18:18,510
they want to see what the new message is

1638
01:18:30,540 --> 01:18:24,070
exactly and now now it gets to the point

1639
01:18:33,480 --> 01:18:30,550
where one is feeding the other and such

1640
01:18:36,450 --> 01:18:33,490
that are you think Chris is and the

1641
01:18:38,370 --> 01:18:36,460
writers in general are now responding to

1642
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:38,380
the ebb and flow of the conspiracy

1643
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:40,930
theorists out there and now they have to

1644
01:18:44,660 --> 01:18:43,810
feed the Machine yeah like the tail is

1645
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:44,670
wagging the dog

1646
01:18:51,170 --> 01:18:47,970
exactly yeah well there was that

1647
01:18:54,330 --> 01:18:51,180
discussion because there was a lot of

1648
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:54,340
people coming then trying to add their

1649
01:18:58,950 --> 01:18:56,770
stories and I was even told at one point

1650
01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:58,960
listen don't read anybody script that

1651
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:01,600
send in your scripts because if you read

1652
01:19:07,950 --> 01:19:04,810
something and then it shows up in the

1653
01:19:10,650 --> 01:19:07,960
x-files that lawsuit is on you we will

1654
01:19:14,910 --> 01:19:10,660
not back you up on that at all so for

1655
01:19:18,420 --> 01:19:14,920
the last you know six through season ten

1656
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:18,430
I basically was getting writers all over

1657
01:19:21,180 --> 01:19:19,690
the place but Hank can you read my thing

1658
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:21,190
and can you you know take a look at it

1659
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:24,250
and I had to say no because if you wrote

1660
01:19:30,090 --> 01:19:26,650
anything about UFOs conspiracy or

1661
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:30,100
anything like that I you know even if I

1662
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:31,930
don't talk to Chris Carter or any of the

1663
01:19:36,330 --> 01:19:34,690
writers I can't I'm gonna have to prove

1664
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:36,340
that a court of law if you sue me

1665
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:39,130
because there was an episode that sort

1666
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:42,400
of mirrored your script so it became for

1667
01:19:47,940 --> 01:19:45,850
me this kind of shutting down

1668
01:19:50,010 --> 01:19:47,950
what's going on with other writers and

1669
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:50,020
what's going on in the writers room on

1670
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:53,650
the show itself did you guys have FBI

1671
01:20:01,080 --> 01:19:57,520
onset they would come and visit

1672
01:20:04,380 --> 01:20:01,090
there was a consultant that Chris Carter

1673
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:04,390
would call in LA for just procedural

1674
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:06,610
stuff and that kind of thing and even

1675
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:08,110
now to this day

1676
01:20:15,090 --> 01:20:12,370
FBI runs a screenwriters weekend

1677
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:15,100
workshop where you know some would tell

1678
01:20:18,510 --> 01:20:16,690
you they're just telling you procedurals

1679
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:18,520
but others will say that they're

1680
01:20:24,660 --> 01:20:21,610
directing how they should be portrayed

1681
01:20:26,910 --> 01:20:24,670
in the media and you know depends on

1682
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:26,920
which rebellious writer you're talking

1683
01:20:32,990 --> 01:20:29,489
to but that they do that for

1684
01:20:35,940 --> 01:20:33,000
screenwriters in Hollywood did you go

1685
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:35,950
part of your you know you've got to base

1686
01:20:40,410 --> 01:20:37,330
your character on something did you

1687
01:20:46,770 --> 01:20:40,420
visit the FBI and check out you know

1688
01:20:49,770 --> 01:20:46,780
computer rooms I went to the major FBI

1689
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:49,780
office in El Paso Texas Sean O'Haire yes

1690
01:20:55,229 --> 01:20:52,570
where it's like that's the ground zero

1691
01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:55,239
of the drug war yeah and was wearing the

1692
01:21:00,240 --> 01:20:58,050
Kevlar vest I think I have a few shots

1693
01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:00,250
somewhere deep in my facebook I meet

1694
01:21:08,130 --> 01:21:03,310
with an older FBI bulletproof vests at

1695
01:21:10,580 --> 01:21:08,140
the seniors senior what does he senior

1696
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:10,590
agent I guess his desk I'm sitting there

1697
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:13,090
with my feet up on his desk looking like

1698
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:17,050
a junior FBI agent and I did you were

1699
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:21,040
you able to what did you did you beza

1700
01:21:29,850 --> 01:21:23,890
how did you base your character well

1701
01:21:32,130 --> 01:21:29,860
originally yeah because I took my major

1702
01:21:35,060 --> 01:21:32,140
was theater in university but my minor

1703
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:35,070
was in physics and extra thermodynamics

1704
01:21:41,670 --> 01:21:39,210
so I knew a lot of these computer guys

1705
01:21:45,930 --> 01:21:41,680
and physics you know physician

1706
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:45,940
physicists they were all really cool

1707
01:21:48,450 --> 01:21:47,290
they were in Skid Row

1708
01:21:52,410 --> 01:21:48,460
you know they were doing like

1709
01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:52,420
alternative subculture art projects like

1710
01:21:55,410 --> 01:21:53,920
although they were very creative and

1711
01:21:57,630 --> 01:21:55,420
they weren't like the nerdy pocket

1712
01:21:58,169 --> 01:21:57,640
protector type so that was what was

1713
01:22:02,009 --> 01:21:58,179
going through

1714
01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:02,019
mind when I was playing the character of

1715
01:22:07,919 --> 01:22:05,110
course the writers were talking to a lot

1716
01:22:10,410 --> 01:22:07,929
of the people in LA and introduced me to

1717
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:10,420
the likes of jordan maxwell roundabout

1718
01:22:15,029 --> 01:22:12,489
chillier all those guys and that's how I

1719
01:22:17,549 --> 01:22:15,039
started getting being invited to UFO

1720
01:22:21,870 --> 01:22:17,559
cons and conferences and all that sort

1721
01:22:25,410 --> 01:22:21,880
of thing and but your character to me to

1722
01:22:31,770 --> 01:22:25,420
me it was was a delicate balance of nerd

1723
01:22:34,020 --> 01:22:31,780
and intelligence it takes a lot of hours

1724
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:34,030
at the book so maybe your social skills

1725
01:22:39,359 --> 01:22:37,570
will diminish a little so yeah

1726
01:22:43,259 --> 01:22:39,369
absolutely you wanted to play that

1727
01:22:45,540 --> 01:22:43,269
balance of not being so cool that you

1728
01:22:47,609 --> 01:22:45,550
know it would seem like you never spent

1729
01:22:49,020 --> 01:22:47,619
two seconds in front of a computer but

1730
01:22:51,839 --> 01:22:49,030
at the same time you can't play so

1731
01:22:54,929 --> 01:22:51,849
insular that it's not fun to play well

1732
01:22:57,540 --> 01:22:54,939
and how was that for you because I know

1733
01:23:00,989 --> 01:22:57,550
you well I don't know you know you but I

1734
01:23:03,629 --> 01:23:00,999
think but improv and and comedy you're

1735
01:23:05,850 --> 01:23:03,639
outgoing gregarious people person can

1736
01:23:07,410 --> 01:23:05,860
talk to anybody you know it doesn't

1737
01:23:09,089 --> 01:23:07,420
matter what the personality is that

1738
01:23:10,979 --> 01:23:09,099
you're having a conversation with you

1739
01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:10,989
can adapt because that's what you do

1740
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:13,360
that's what you do but you're playing a

1741
01:23:20,580 --> 01:23:15,760
character that is the exact polarized

1742
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:20,590
opposite of your natural true being well

1743
01:23:27,540 --> 01:23:24,489
yeah to be Langly still could

1744
01:23:30,239 --> 01:23:27,550
communicate but he was also I overlaid

1745
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:30,249
it with that paranoia so that you know

1746
01:23:35,399 --> 01:23:32,320
you're not gonna be good arias with just

1747
01:23:38,549 --> 01:23:35,409
anybody who shows up so what seems

1748
01:23:43,169 --> 01:23:38,559
reserved a nerdy may also be suspicious

1749
01:23:45,029 --> 01:23:43,179
and and keeping your guard up as aware

1750
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:45,039
well and so was that that had to been

1751
01:23:50,549 --> 01:23:48,400
totally fun well because you know if

1752
01:23:53,580 --> 01:23:50,559
you're I mean everybody wants to play

1753
01:23:55,729 --> 01:23:53,590
the opposite of who you are you know you

1754
01:23:58,199 --> 01:23:55,739
want to play a murdering gun-slinging

1755
01:23:59,850 --> 01:23:58,209
you know it's the opposite of who you

1756
01:24:00,929 --> 01:23:59,860
are in real life who so you can go out

1757
01:24:04,589 --> 01:24:00,939
and just do it

1758
01:24:06,089 --> 01:24:04,599
yeah and that role man I mean for for

1759
01:24:08,009 --> 01:24:06,099
who you are you know like I said mr.

1760
01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:08,019
gregarious improvisational guy and then

1761
01:24:11,790 --> 01:24:10,110
you got to go and do this kind of role

1762
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:11,800
season he must

1763
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:13,810
have been a kid in a candy store oh yeah

1764
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:16,000
it was really fun and and the joy of it

1765
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:21,250
was its its ease which to fly into it

1766
01:24:25,740 --> 01:24:23,170
because it was often I would show up on

1767
01:24:27,480 --> 01:24:25,750
set with my just own wardrobe and then

1768
01:24:29,610 --> 01:24:27,490
just switch out t-shirts

1769
01:24:32,370 --> 01:24:29,620
throw on a Ramones t-shirt and then hop

1770
01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:32,380
on set so it wasn't like all my other

1771
01:24:36,450 --> 01:24:34,450
friends a different sci-fi shows four

1772
01:24:39,330 --> 01:24:36,460
hours in the makeup chair putting on

1773
01:24:41,610 --> 01:24:39,340
alien outfits you know or military gear

1774
01:24:45,150 --> 01:24:41,620
and all that sort of thing it was it was

1775
01:24:48,270 --> 01:24:45,160
a breeze to come in you know come in an

1776
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:48,280
hour before and then often the writers

1777
01:24:52,170 --> 01:24:49,840
because they were working so hard you

1778
01:24:54,510 --> 01:24:52,180
would often get your lines on the day or

1779
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:54,520
just hand it to you at the trailer just

1780
01:25:00,560 --> 01:24:57,370
before you go on set so so there wasn't

1781
01:25:03,210 --> 01:25:00,570
a lot of prep time so my improvisational

1782
01:25:06,750 --> 01:25:03,220
background helped a lot in the ability

1783
01:25:09,420 --> 01:25:06,760
to be relaxed with new information and

1784
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:09,430
how was it for everybody else and we're

1785
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:10,930
not gonna take a break at the bottom of

1786
01:25:15,870 --> 01:25:13,360
the hour just because it's you and we're

1787
01:25:18,300 --> 01:25:15,880
gonna stay on role but you know it's so

1788
01:25:20,010 --> 01:25:18,310
it was a fun job it was a fun gig it

1789
01:25:22,650 --> 01:25:20,020
wasn't it it wasn't something that you

1790
01:25:24,930 --> 01:25:22,660
abort you knew you didn't hate the role

1791
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:24,940
you wanna be there was it like that for

1792
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:27,610
everybody else well you know David and

1793
01:25:31,500 --> 01:25:29,290
Jillian they had to work 16-hour days

1794
01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:31,510
every day oh I apologize for the siren

1795
01:25:38,490 --> 01:25:33,600
this is downtown Los Angeles cetera and

1796
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:38,500
just went by today for them it was you

1797
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:42,010
know long 16-hour days they had see they

1798
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:44,080
would watch the Sun Rise almost every

1799
01:25:48,630 --> 01:25:47,050
Saturday because unbearably the week

1800
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:48,640
would get pushed so that year's start

1801
01:25:53,070 --> 01:25:50,650
time on Friday would be 4:00 in the

1802
01:25:55,410 --> 01:25:53,080
afternoon and you still have to put in a

1803
01:25:58,290 --> 01:25:55,420
16-hour day so you'd be you know working

1804
01:26:00,630 --> 01:25:58,300
well into Saturday and and then have to

1805
01:26:03,020 --> 01:26:00,640
be on set again Monday so there wasn't

1806
01:26:06,870 --> 01:26:03,030
much of a life they had for the first

1807
01:26:09,900 --> 01:26:06,880
five seasons for sure but for us you

1808
01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:09,910
know we would come in a day or two we

1809
01:26:15,300 --> 01:26:11,710
get her lines we'd say stuff and then I

1810
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:15,310
would just go back call my agent in New

1811
01:26:21,300 --> 01:26:17,050
York and have comedy clubs booked and

1812
01:26:24,030 --> 01:26:21,310
hit the road and see see the world the

1813
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:24,040
of the fun way through comedy stages all

1814
01:26:32,130 --> 01:26:25,210
over the place

1815
01:26:36,209 --> 01:26:32,140
and then you turn into the UFO guy well

1816
01:26:38,070 --> 01:26:36,219
now was that something that you you

1817
01:26:39,959 --> 01:26:38,080
welcomed you know you just said it

1818
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:39,969
yourself Jordan Maxwell and everybody

1819
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:42,610
that the you know the the group that

1820
01:26:48,510 --> 01:26:46,090
lives here in LA yeah you become that

1821
01:26:52,620 --> 01:26:48,520
go-to guy whether you like it or not how

1822
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:52,630
how did that happen and was it a was it

1823
01:26:59,040 --> 01:26:55,290
a tidal wave or did it slowly come on

1824
01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:59,050
it's kind of slow I mean it was more I

1825
01:27:03,780 --> 01:27:01,120
never thought of myself the UFO guy I

1826
01:27:06,990 --> 01:27:03,790
thought myself as oh yeah I was on a

1827
01:27:08,700 --> 01:27:07,000
show that had UFOs so let's you know

1828
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:08,710
listen to these guys and they're all

1829
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:10,570
fascinating and they have spent their

1830
01:27:18,180 --> 01:27:12,730
lives researching this stuff and their

1831
01:27:21,540 --> 01:27:18,190
stories are amazing and and so the

1832
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:21,550
because of my improv background you you

1833
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:23,530
were given a suggestion and you go with

1834
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:26,650
that so you say yes and a lot to stuff

1835
01:27:30,630 --> 01:27:28,570
so so if they said oh would you like to

1836
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:30,640
come to a UFO conference you go yes and

1837
01:27:35,580 --> 01:27:33,040
we'll do comedy there and I would do my

1838
01:27:37,709 --> 01:27:35,590
show there at the convention as well and

1839
01:27:39,959 --> 01:27:37,719
from there then I would learn all about

1840
01:27:43,890 --> 01:27:39,969
these things and you know dr. Roger

1841
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:43,900
Lear's implant removals I had seen those

1842
01:27:49,740 --> 01:27:45,610
in the jars and he told me all those

1843
01:27:52,229 --> 01:27:49,750
stories and so as I then do shows like

1844
01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:52,239
this that I would start repeating these

1845
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:54,400
fans fascinating stories that they would

1846
01:28:03,350 --> 01:27:57,370
tell and it would sort of grow out from

1847
01:28:07,110 --> 01:28:03,360
that naturally you got to certainly with

1848
01:28:09,959 --> 01:28:07,120
with your UFOs the truth is out there

1849
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:09,969
with that documentary everybody not

1850
01:28:16,020 --> 01:28:12,610
everybody but but all that most of the

1851
01:28:20,399 --> 01:28:16,030
heavy hitters are there yeah and you're

1852
01:28:22,890 --> 01:28:20,409
in the circle was it again it's kind of

1853
01:28:26,130 --> 01:28:22,900
like the chicken or the egg you know

1854
01:28:28,830 --> 01:28:26,140
which came first and so how did that how

1855
01:28:32,790 --> 01:28:28,840
did the idea for the germ of the idea

1856
01:28:35,300 --> 01:28:32,800
for the film come about and and then as

1857
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:35,310
you're interviewing

1858
01:28:40,850 --> 01:28:38,490
all of these personalities were you

1859
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:40,860
learning from them or was it the

1860
01:28:46,010 --> 01:28:42,570
opposite did you already have this

1861
01:28:48,380 --> 01:28:46,020
knowledge going in no it's the other way

1862
01:28:50,540 --> 01:28:48,390
around it really was learning from them

1863
01:28:54,440 --> 01:28:50,550
as you see in that documentary

1864
01:28:56,270 --> 01:28:54,450
it is actually an exploration of not

1865
01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:56,280
just the individual stories that they

1866
01:29:00,140 --> 01:28:58,050
have but the people behind it and then

1867
01:29:03,050 --> 01:29:00,150
how it all interconnects to everyone

1868
01:29:04,670 --> 01:29:03,060
else's stories so so while you could

1869
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:04,680
watch that documentary again and again

1870
01:29:09,950 --> 01:29:07,650
is it's not actually edited linear in a

1871
01:29:12,260 --> 01:29:09,960
linear fashion but in actually an

1872
01:29:14,540 --> 01:29:12,270
orbital fashion so that all of these

1873
01:29:16,460 --> 01:29:14,550
threads connect to all these different

1874
01:29:19,550 --> 01:29:16,470
parts of the circle if you can imagine

1875
01:29:21,380 --> 01:29:19,560
that so this is why you know you can

1876
01:29:23,300 --> 01:29:21,390
watch a little bit of it and then pick

1877
01:29:26,900 --> 01:29:23,310
it up again and see the connections that

1878
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:26,910
it all makes and this all started

1879
01:29:32,750 --> 01:29:29,610
because my co-producer Phil awareness

1880
01:29:35,990 --> 01:29:32,760
and on the on the podcast had come to a

1881
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:36,000
couple of conventions with me to sit

1882
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:38,370
beside me and you know sell pictures and

1883
01:29:44,780 --> 01:29:42,210
and that sort of thing and he was amazed

1884
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:44,790
completely freaked out by the number of

1885
01:29:48,830 --> 01:29:46,170
people coming up and telling me their

1886
01:29:51,020 --> 01:29:48,840
stories you know personal things all

1887
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:51,030
that sort of thing and he said right

1888
01:29:54,950 --> 01:29:53,010
there that this is a documentary and it

1889
01:29:57,140 --> 01:29:54,960
was funny because I had been in it so

1890
01:30:00,110 --> 01:29:57,150
long I was didn't see the forest for the

1891
01:30:01,820 --> 01:30:00,120
trees so at which point he said we gotta

1892
01:30:03,980 --> 01:30:01,830
get a camera we're gonna follow you

1893
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:03,990
around the world for a year as you go to

1894
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:05,970
these conventions and we talked to all

1895
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:08,400
these people and you know he knew right

1896
01:30:12,290 --> 01:30:10,410
then and there that there this was all

1897
01:30:16,250 --> 01:30:12,300
interconnected that all of these stories

1898
01:30:20,540 --> 01:30:16,260
and all of these conspiracies be it way

1899
01:30:24,020 --> 01:30:20,550
out there or mainstream were had a

1900
01:30:28,070 --> 01:30:24,030
common thread of not just humanity but

1901
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:28,080
of a larger thing and when you will see

1902
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:30,320
the documentary that that thing sort of

1903
01:30:36,650 --> 01:30:34,050
makes it stuff known but not we don't

1904
01:30:41,950 --> 01:30:36,660
you know we don't push it as an agenda

1905
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:41,960
how did you find Smallwood it's not like

1906
01:30:47,990 --> 01:30:45,330
with his his part in the in the

1907
01:30:48,440 --> 01:30:48,000
documentary is is to me one of the

1908
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:48,450
morgue

1909
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:51,090
Dror Denari parts of the film you know

1910
01:30:56,270 --> 01:30:53,730
his is one-act play and then your

1911
01:31:00,200 --> 01:30:56,280
discussions with him up on the roof

1912
01:31:02,710 --> 01:31:00,210
which were just I mean just mesmerizing

1913
01:31:05,270 --> 01:31:02,720
yes you know checker Smallwood yeah I

1914
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:05,280
would love to have him on the show

1915
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:08,730
this guy is phenomenal you know he you

1916
01:31:16,070 --> 01:31:12,410
know the the amazing thing about him is

1917
01:31:19,370 --> 01:31:16,080
in Apocalypse Now this scene where he's

1918
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:19,380
waterskiing on your back at the PTP yep

1919
01:31:25,310 --> 01:31:21,890
that Tucker Smallwood did that for real

1920
01:31:27,470 --> 01:31:25,320
that was that's how Coppola was inspired

1921
01:31:29,510 --> 01:31:27,480
and actually Coppola wanted Tucker in

1922
01:31:31,580 --> 01:31:29,520
Apocalypse Now but because he had just

1923
01:31:34,250 --> 01:31:31,590
got back from Vietnam and it had a

1924
01:31:36,260 --> 01:31:34,260
horrendous injury it was too traumatic

1925
01:31:40,610 --> 01:31:36,270
for him to be in that movie so he had to

1926
01:31:43,670 --> 01:31:40,620
turn it down and and later did Cotton

1927
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:43,680
Club instead yeah so did he approach you

1928
01:31:50,470 --> 01:31:48,330
or did you know about his experience his

1929
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:50,480
experience and he's good friends with

1930
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:53,610
with Phil as well and him and I were

1931
01:31:58,160 --> 01:31:55,410
also in a movie together called spectres

1932
01:32:01,120 --> 01:31:58,170
and so we had worked together before and

1933
01:32:05,060 --> 01:32:01,130
in between sets he told me all about his

1934
01:32:07,190 --> 01:32:05,070
UFO and area51 experiences and that sort

1935
01:32:10,370 --> 01:32:07,200
of thing did he approach so did he came

1936
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:10,380
up to I have to ask because it is such a

1937
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:13,890
brilliant part of the documentary and

1938
01:32:19,070 --> 01:32:16,650
for for everybody that hasn't seen it

1939
01:32:22,070 --> 01:32:19,080
you can go it's on YouTube you can also

1940
01:32:24,230 --> 01:32:22,080
go to the truth is out there calm and

1941
01:32:25,820 --> 01:32:24,240
the links are at Jimmy church radio make

1942
01:32:28,750 --> 01:32:25,830
sure I'm sure most of our listeners have

1943
01:32:31,670 --> 01:32:28,760
seen the documentary Tucker Smallwood is

1944
01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:31,680
the black actor in the documentary that

1945
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:34,490
does is one-act play yeah and then

1946
01:32:41,270 --> 01:32:39,210
discusses his experiences on the roof of

1947
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:41,280
a building in Hollywood somewhere and

1948
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:42,930
well that you know that's not just the

1949
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:46,130
roof of a building that's that is a X

1950
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:49,410
Nike missile radar platform in a

1951
01:32:55,190 --> 01:32:52,170
decommissioned that's now a park but at

1952
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:55,200
the time it was a top-secret radar

1953
01:32:58,550 --> 01:32:57,570
facility in at the top of Brentwood

1954
01:33:00,320 --> 01:32:58,560
California

1955
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:00,330
oh yeah

1956
01:33:06,710 --> 01:33:04,170
yeah I have been up there I did know

1957
01:33:09,260 --> 01:33:06,720
that that's where it was yeah yeah so

1958
01:33:11,630 --> 01:33:09,270
that that's where we film that as a as

1959
01:33:14,930 --> 01:33:11,640
kind of a thing where we began talking

1960
01:33:18,500 --> 01:33:14,940
about you know what's a conspiracy then

1961
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:18,510
later becomes a national park you know

1962
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:20,370
because everybody would go no there's a

1963
01:33:24,050 --> 01:33:22,050
nuclear missile radar site up there

1964
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:24,060
though that's just a conspiracy and then

1965
01:33:28,430 --> 01:33:26,130
later in Commission it's like oh yeah I

1966
01:33:29,930 --> 01:33:28,440
was there all along yeah there's a few

1967
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:29,940
sites like that in the Hollywood Hills

1968
01:33:33,830 --> 01:33:32,130
that most people don't know about and if

1969
01:33:36,710 --> 01:33:33,840
you just go hiking on the trails you

1970
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:36,720
will find some missile installation yeah

1971
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:38,610
oh yeah because it was all linked up and

1972
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:42,050
and and in the valley there's still

1973
01:33:49,940 --> 01:33:45,210
undeveloped fields that apparently still

1974
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:49,950
have the old silos underneath so yeah so

1975
01:33:54,440 --> 01:33:51,570
that was the basis that's where we

1976
01:33:56,900 --> 01:33:54,450
decided to start that conversation to

1977
01:33:59,810 --> 01:33:56,910
start this idea of what you know what is

1978
01:34:03,860 --> 01:33:59,820
the truth as revealed and what is your

1979
01:34:05,930 --> 01:34:03,870
responsibility to reveal that and he was

1980
01:34:09,170 --> 01:34:05,940
because I always think of him is like

1981
01:34:11,180 --> 01:34:09,180
one of the first the forebears of the

1982
01:34:14,660 --> 01:34:11,190
acting community who has these

1983
01:34:18,110 --> 01:34:14,670
experiences and and started telling the

1984
01:34:20,570 --> 01:34:18,120
people about it and so he he was already

1985
01:34:22,820 --> 01:34:20,580
doing that but definitely we I fill came

1986
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:22,830
to him and said we need you to be part

1987
01:34:25,730 --> 01:34:24,090
of this because this is going to be a

1988
01:34:28,460 --> 01:34:25,740
continuation of the conversation

1989
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:28,470
we've already had for number of years

1990
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:33,290
now yeah tucker is such a refined

1991
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:36,570
gentleman yeah that's what he is and

1992
01:34:40,700 --> 01:34:38,370
when you hear him telling me you know

1993
01:34:44,540 --> 01:34:40,710
his experiences you're like whoa a man

1994
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:44,550
he didn't need to come out no you know

1995
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:47,130
what I mean yeah yeah like and this is

1996
01:34:51,140 --> 01:34:48,930
always the fear is like now with your

1997
01:34:53,780 --> 01:34:51,150
career suffer or are you gonna be judged

1998
01:34:58,070 --> 01:34:53,790
that way or this way and his career has

1999
01:34:59,270 --> 01:34:58,080
been doing very well and they even you

2000
01:35:01,190 --> 01:34:59,280
know I was gonna say in spite of that

2001
01:35:03,380 --> 01:35:01,200
but it's not in spite because it's just

2002
01:35:06,790 --> 01:35:03,390
a continuation of who he is right now

2003
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:06,800
what did you what did you learn as you

2004
01:35:11,450 --> 01:35:09,090
started to complete this documentary you

2005
01:35:12,470 --> 01:35:11,460
shot it over a year and you can tell but

2006
01:35:16,970 --> 01:35:12,480
I mean you're all

2007
01:35:19,910 --> 01:35:16,980
for the planet yeah you didn't shoot

2008
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:19,920
this thing in a week no no and you've

2009
01:35:24,020 --> 01:35:22,170
talked you speak with everybody who

2010
01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:24,030
speak with the psychologist who she was

2011
01:35:27,500 --> 01:35:25,110
great what was her name

2012
01:35:28,610 --> 01:35:27,510
a doctor here at Nicky Monty oh she's

2013
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:28,620
she's precious

2014
01:35:34,100 --> 01:35:30,930
she's fantastic she's unbelievable so

2015
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:34,110
you you you know it's Jordan Maxwell and

2016
01:35:41,690 --> 01:35:38,370
and David Serena yeah that dulling

2017
01:35:44,900 --> 01:35:41,700
Richard Dolan who was also on this

2018
01:35:46,850 --> 01:35:44,910
network and a dear friend and and so but

2019
01:35:49,250 --> 01:35:46,860
what did you what did you learn it you

2020
01:35:51,190 --> 01:35:49,260
started to put all of this together well

2021
01:35:55,130 --> 01:35:51,200
to me and the amazing thing was that

2022
01:35:59,470 --> 01:35:55,140
that conspiracy and consciousness are

2023
01:36:03,380 --> 01:35:59,480
sort of interconnected that as your

2024
01:36:07,370 --> 01:36:03,390
consciousness is raised and so you know

2025
01:36:11,300 --> 01:36:07,380
we go through our conspiratorial thought

2026
01:36:14,060 --> 01:36:11,310
process and and go you know why is some

2027
01:36:16,220 --> 01:36:14,070
of this knowledge hidden and why are

2028
01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:16,230
these things and so as you have

2029
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:19,110
consciousness expansion in whatever form

2030
01:36:22,250 --> 01:36:20,130
you know there's people in our

2031
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:22,260
documentary to do the high Alaska thing

2032
01:36:28,190 --> 01:36:24,330
is everybody who's doing different kind

2033
01:36:29,930 --> 01:36:28,200
of their own different pasts and that

2034
01:36:33,020 --> 01:36:29,940
kind of thing that this idea of

2035
01:36:36,050 --> 01:36:33,030
consciousness and conspiracy and and

2036
01:36:39,860 --> 01:36:36,060
then I add the element of comedy come

2037
01:36:41,740 --> 01:36:39,870
together in kind of a interlocking

2038
01:36:44,210 --> 01:36:41,750
fashion that I was really surprised at

2039
01:36:47,390 --> 01:36:44,220
and so the idea that searching for the

2040
01:36:49,220 --> 01:36:47,400
truth can actually be fun and doesn't

2041
01:36:51,140 --> 01:36:49,230
have to be you know a horribly dark

2042
01:36:55,220 --> 01:36:51,150
depressing thing down a rabbit hole

2043
01:36:59,900 --> 01:36:55,230
have you had your own sighting UFO

2044
01:37:01,970 --> 01:36:59,910
sighting yes no and you know to this day

2045
01:37:03,830 --> 01:37:01,980
I think that even if I did I probably

2046
01:37:05,570 --> 01:37:03,840
wouldn't say anything about it because

2047
01:37:09,430 --> 01:37:05,580
there they go oh poor Dini misses the

2048
01:37:12,020 --> 01:37:09,440
show so much he's he's seeing UFOs so

2049
01:37:14,630 --> 01:37:12,030
though I would tell you but I have not

2050
01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:14,640
we even went to Yakima where that you

2051
01:37:19,580 --> 01:37:17,280
have a 95 percent chance of seeing a for

2052
01:37:22,490 --> 01:37:19,590
a unidentified flying object up there

2053
01:37:23,930 --> 01:37:22,500
right and we had the camera trained on

2054
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:23,940
the sky all night but I went to bed

2055
01:37:28,979 --> 01:37:26,050
early so and felt in

2056
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:28,989
anything in there so so yes we're still

2057
01:37:34,919 --> 01:37:31,770
out of that I go sightings I've had but

2058
01:37:38,790 --> 01:37:34,929
but not UFOs go sighting now see I

2059
01:37:40,979 --> 01:37:38,800
haven't well I've had one go sighting

2060
01:37:46,589 --> 01:37:40,989
I've had one you know where I had it Oh

2061
01:37:48,839 --> 01:37:46,599
check this out right behind where they

2062
01:37:51,780 --> 01:37:48,849
do where they used to do comedy sports

2063
01:37:56,819 --> 01:37:51,790
at that theater on Bronson and Franklin

2064
01:37:58,979 --> 01:37:56,829
across from Scientology oh yeah yeah is

2065
01:38:01,169 --> 01:37:58,989
the name of that thing yes then Franklin

2066
01:38:05,970 --> 01:38:01,179
yeah that's theater that theater right

2067
01:38:09,689 --> 01:38:05,980
there at a house right behind it right

2068
01:38:12,149 --> 01:38:09,699
literally right behind that strip where

2069
01:38:14,490 --> 01:38:12,159
the where the theater is where they do

2070
01:38:16,879 --> 01:38:14,500
the live comedy there the improv so

2071
01:38:19,500 --> 01:38:16,889
right there so you know the area right

2072
01:38:22,109 --> 01:38:19,510
in the middle of Hollywood across from

2073
01:38:24,419 --> 01:38:22,119
Scientology and yeah I just had this

2074
01:38:25,709 --> 01:38:24,429
weird thing I pulled up at two o'clock

2075
01:38:28,919 --> 01:38:25,719
in the morning 3 o'clock in the morning

2076
01:38:31,319 --> 01:38:28,929
at my girlfriend's house at the time I'm

2077
01:38:33,839 --> 01:38:31,329
waiting for her to come home and she was

2078
01:38:36,330 --> 01:38:33,849
supposed to already be there and I went

2079
01:38:36,990 --> 01:38:36,340
up and knocked on the door and I didn't

2080
01:38:41,069 --> 01:38:37,000
get an answer

2081
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:41,079
oh no no let me back up let the siding

2082
01:38:48,299 --> 01:38:44,770
out so I pull up in the car and and I'm

2083
01:38:49,859 --> 01:38:48,309
looking at the house and I'm like okay

2084
01:38:52,979 --> 01:38:49,869
all right I'm sitting there and then I

2085
01:38:55,109 --> 01:38:52,989
see the curtain pull to the side big

2086
01:38:57,450 --> 01:38:55,119
picture window on the on the on the

2087
01:38:59,640 --> 01:38:57,460
front porch big big you know 8 by 10

2088
01:39:01,319 --> 01:38:59,650
foot piece of glass and I see the

2089
01:39:04,770 --> 01:39:01,329
curtain pull aside and I see this face

2090
01:39:07,049 --> 01:39:04,780
look out and went oh oh somebody's here

2091
01:39:08,490 --> 01:39:07,059
must be your roommate so I jump out of

2092
01:39:10,020 --> 01:39:08,500
the car cool I don't have to wait in my

2093
01:39:12,299 --> 01:39:10,030
car I go up and I knock on the door

2094
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:12,309
nobody answers I'm like come on bang

2095
01:39:17,490 --> 01:39:15,250
bang bang bang bang nobody answers I'm

2096
01:39:18,180 --> 01:39:17,500
like what and I look and I look in the

2097
01:39:20,129 --> 01:39:18,190
window

2098
01:39:22,649 --> 01:39:20,139
and I can't see through the curtains but

2099
01:39:25,109 --> 01:39:22,659
I'm like you know you know somebody said

2100
01:39:27,569 --> 01:39:25,119
there yeah yeah it was uncool because I

2101
01:39:29,370 --> 01:39:27,579
was getting angry because I was being

2102
01:39:31,709 --> 01:39:29,380
forced to sit in my car outside

2103
01:39:34,500 --> 01:39:31,719
or I could be inside the house right and

2104
01:39:36,060 --> 01:39:34,510
so I knock one more time and I go and I

2105
01:39:38,879 --> 01:39:36,070
sit in my car and I'm a little pissed

2106
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:38,889
off and then finally my girlfriend pulls

2107
01:39:42,630 --> 01:39:39,730
up

2108
01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:42,640
with another friend of hers and I go

2109
01:39:45,150 --> 01:39:44,110
your roommates home but she's not

2110
01:39:47,610 --> 01:39:45,160
opening the door

2111
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:47,620
she goes no she's not she's over at

2112
01:39:53,459 --> 01:39:51,250
Chris's house she's not here I go no no

2113
01:39:54,300 --> 01:39:53,469
no no no now everybody's a little

2114
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:54,310
freaked out

2115
01:39:58,830 --> 01:39:56,770
yeah because somebody's in the house so

2116
01:40:00,120 --> 01:39:58,840
we go up we unlock the door we turn on

2117
01:40:01,590 --> 01:40:00,130
all the lights we walk through all of

2118
01:40:03,810 --> 01:40:01,600
that nobody's there

2119
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:03,820
and I was the first entry there wasn't a

2120
01:40:11,580 --> 01:40:06,330
burglar in the know and I was just

2121
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:11,590
freaked out because I know what I saw

2122
01:40:17,070 --> 01:40:15,370
it was only 20 feet away from me and and

2123
01:40:18,990 --> 01:40:17,080
now everybody's freaked out and we

2124
01:40:23,550 --> 01:40:19,000
checked that we checked the entire house

2125
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:23,560
nobody's there and and we freaked and

2126
01:40:28,050 --> 01:40:26,650
yeah yeah yeah and so anyway I don't

2127
01:40:30,180 --> 01:40:28,060
want to take up a whole lot with that

2128
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:30,190
but that was my one go siding and it was

2129
01:40:34,229 --> 01:40:32,050
right that's really good yeah yeah

2130
01:40:35,939 --> 01:40:34,239
that's the real deal and well yeah and

2131
01:40:38,490 --> 01:40:35,949
that area too that's like old Hollywood

2132
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:38,500
so you know there was a lot of actors

2133
01:40:42,419 --> 01:40:40,570
and know that dying around there and

2134
01:40:45,300 --> 01:40:42,429
still probably hunting those areas yeah

2135
01:40:46,830 --> 01:40:45,310
you know that's true yeah and I was that

2136
01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:46,840
for our listeners that are listening

2137
01:40:52,350 --> 01:40:49,600
this is right below the Hollywood sign

2138
01:40:55,110 --> 01:40:52,360
yeah like you could watch you look up

2139
01:40:57,209 --> 01:40:55,120
and literally the Hollywood sign is is

2140
01:40:59,669 --> 01:40:57,219
glowing above this house and that's why

2141
01:41:04,169 --> 01:40:59,679
it could be penny and whistle furl you

2142
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:04,179
know that was good that was good

2143
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:07,690
some insider stuff so what was your go

2144
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:11,050
sightings well I was at a church that

2145
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:12,489
was converted to a theater in

2146
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:14,890
Springville New York an hour his south

2147
01:41:20,910 --> 01:41:18,250
of Buffalo and I was there

2148
01:41:23,790 --> 01:41:20,920
introducing the truth is out there

2149
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:23,800
actually because I was there a friend of

2150
01:41:27,959 --> 01:41:25,690
mine lives there and had a art gallery

2151
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:27,969
so I was doing a show there and part of

2152
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:30,250
the show was to screen the documentary

2153
01:41:37,050 --> 01:41:34,810
and so you know being on stage doing

2154
01:41:39,390 --> 01:41:37,060
stand-up you and doing improv

2155
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:39,400
particularly you you look at your

2156
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:41,050
audience and you know where everybody is

2157
01:41:45,330 --> 01:41:43,810
seated immediately right so it was a

2158
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:45,340
small crowd it was only about 15 or 20

2159
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:49,570
people and I knew like 10 of them so I

2160
01:41:54,300 --> 01:41:51,730
knew the four guys in the back row on

2161
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:54,310
the right of my stage right we're

2162
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:55,330
friends of mine

2163
01:41:59,250 --> 01:41:57,370
my girlfriend was taking tickets at the

2164
01:42:02,970 --> 01:41:59,260
front on the left side where the door

2165
01:42:04,830 --> 01:42:02,980
was there was a couple people down front

2166
01:42:06,500 --> 01:42:04,840
that I knew and you know scatter around

2167
01:42:08,910 --> 01:42:06,510
so basically I had the whole audience

2168
01:42:13,550 --> 01:42:08,920
figured out and so I'm introducing this

2169
01:42:18,060 --> 01:42:13,560
as a documentary did you know and I see

2170
01:42:20,459 --> 01:42:18,070
my my girlfriend I've got up and she

2171
01:42:23,310 --> 01:42:20,469
takes the last seat in the back row and

2172
01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:23,320
then as I'm talking over on the stage

2173
01:42:29,850 --> 01:42:26,400
right aisle there's a guy walking down

2174
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:29,860
the rows just as I'm czar in saying and

2175
01:42:36,450 --> 01:42:33,250
so enjoy the movie and I stay had turned

2176
01:42:38,990 --> 01:42:36,460
left to get off the stage as this guy's

2177
01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:39,000
coming down the aisle on the right after

2178
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:43,360
the movie plays I say who is that late

2179
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:46,570
comer walking down the aisle and they

2180
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:48,730
said oh we thought he was a worker

2181
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:51,850
because he blocked directly onto the

2182
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:54,370
stage and I go how did he walk directly

2183
01:42:59,550 --> 01:42:55,690
there's no stairs there

2184
01:43:01,800 --> 01:42:59,560
so basically three of us saw a figure

2185
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:01,810
walked down the aisle and basically walk

2186
01:43:05,820 --> 01:43:03,130
into the stage

2187
01:43:07,500 --> 01:43:05,830
Wow I know and then we were all like

2188
01:43:08,700 --> 01:43:07,510
wait a sec so nobody was sitting that

2189
01:43:11,729 --> 01:43:08,710
when the lights came up there was nobody

2190
01:43:13,919 --> 01:43:11,739
in that area so there was no guy who sat

2191
01:43:16,470 --> 01:43:13,929
there or took off and the guy and it was

2192
01:43:18,990 --> 01:43:16,480
you know it's triangulated so I saw him

2193
01:43:21,450 --> 01:43:19,000
coming towards me and those guys saw him

2194
01:43:24,390 --> 01:43:21,460
walking away from them and then he

2195
01:43:26,610 --> 01:43:24,400
disappeared into the stage and nobody

2196
01:43:29,550 --> 01:43:26,620
saw him later that nobody saw later

2197
01:43:32,669 --> 01:43:29,560
there was no you know I didn't do a big

2198
01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:32,679
history back check on the church or the

2199
01:43:38,430 --> 01:43:36,400
theater but there had been some deaths

2200
01:43:41,189 --> 01:43:38,440
and some flooding and around that area

2201
01:43:44,370 --> 01:43:41,199
plus there was a very do cone Ian

2202
01:43:47,310 --> 01:43:44,380
Dickensian mental institution nearby so

2203
01:43:49,770 --> 01:43:47,320
that had a lot of abuse going on so it

2204
01:43:53,430 --> 01:43:49,780
could have been a ghost from that but it

2205
01:43:55,050 --> 01:43:53,440
was definitely a sighting seen by three

2206
01:43:57,570 --> 01:43:55,060
from three different angles

2207
01:43:59,459 --> 01:43:57,580
wow that's that yeah that's trippy

2208
01:44:02,340 --> 01:43:59,469
that's trippy yeah that's a you know

2209
01:44:04,350 --> 01:44:02,350
it's one thing to go oh you know I saw

2210
01:44:06,030 --> 01:44:04,360
the guy down the hallway or something

2211
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:06,040
like that and you know you know and

2212
01:44:10,260 --> 01:44:08,290
people make you start doubting what you

2213
01:44:12,660 --> 01:44:10,270
see after a while but when three of you

2214
01:44:15,780 --> 01:44:12,670
are collaborating the same guy walking

2215
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:15,790
down the aisle it's like wow I've got a

2216
01:44:20,970 --> 01:44:18,250
bunch of questions and Twitter I'm gonna

2217
01:44:23,340 --> 01:44:20,980
address here really quick before we head

2218
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:23,350
to the break first question in Jimmy

2219
01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:26,770
please has Dean if David Duchovny is as

2220
01:44:39,810 --> 01:44:38,320
dreamy as he looks he looks yeah he's a

2221
01:44:42,210 --> 01:44:39,820
handsome fella I'm not gonna lie to you

2222
01:44:46,170 --> 01:44:42,220
yeah yeah but he doesn't take it

2223
01:44:48,660 --> 01:44:46,180
seriously you know his his major skill

2224
01:44:50,190 --> 01:44:48,670
is being hilarious really and I don't

2225
01:44:53,370 --> 01:44:50,200
think there's ever been like

2226
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:53,380
Californication was mildly funny but he

2227
01:44:59,040 --> 01:44:56,770
is incredibly incredibly a funny man and

2228
01:45:01,770 --> 01:44:59,050
I don't think any show is ever really

2229
01:45:05,100 --> 01:45:01,780
allowed to tap into that Jimmy please

2230
01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:05,110
say hi to Dean from Vancouver yeah and

2231
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:08,560
ask him if there really is only one way

2232
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:18,360
we roommates this is the reference that

2233
01:45:22,950 --> 01:45:21,610
I think there it is there's a well there

2234
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:22,960
was a cockroach episode but is there

2235
01:45:28,710 --> 01:45:24,130
only one way to kill a cockroach you

2236
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:28,720
know there's there's numerous ways I if

2237
01:45:34,110 --> 01:45:30,250
they're referring to a stand-up bit I

2238
01:45:37,440 --> 01:45:34,120
did way back in my amateur night days

2239
01:45:39,810 --> 01:45:37,450
then then that tweet goes way back it's

2240
01:45:41,700 --> 01:45:39,820
it's funny this audience is big and

2241
01:45:43,860 --> 01:45:41,710
they're smart and you just never know

2242
01:45:46,110 --> 01:45:43,870
who's listening to the show and I can

2243
01:45:48,660 --> 01:45:46,120
tell there's some inside stuff here

2244
01:45:50,850 --> 01:45:48,670
thank you with that that's not being

2245
01:45:53,610 --> 01:45:50,860
disclosed okay okay and that's coming

2246
01:46:01,410 --> 01:45:53,620
from do sky so do I want some more

2247
01:46:03,390 --> 01:46:01,420
information and this comes in from

2248
01:46:07,230 --> 01:46:03,400
Yvonne she says we know that Mulder was

2249
01:46:10,740 --> 01:46:07,240
based on an actual person were the lone

2250
01:46:12,690 --> 01:46:10,750
gunman based on real people - yeah well

2251
01:46:15,330 --> 01:46:12,700
as I said that Glenn Morgan James Wong

2252
01:46:17,250 --> 01:46:15,340
saw the these three weird fellers

2253
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:17,260
handing out UFO pamphlets in an airport

2254
01:46:22,230 --> 01:46:19,810
and sort of based it on

2255
01:46:25,380 --> 01:46:22,240
but then you know the characters

2256
01:46:29,010 --> 01:46:25,390
themselves sort of developed far beyond

2257
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:29,020
that and you know Langley everybody says

2258
01:46:33,150 --> 01:46:31,210
was that named after Langley Virginia

2259
01:46:35,100 --> 01:46:33,160
well there was also a suburb in

2260
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:35,110
Vancouver called Langley and there was

2261
01:46:39,570 --> 01:46:37,810
also a hot dog vendor right on Granville

2262
01:46:41,010 --> 01:46:39,580
Street whose name was Langley then

2263
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:41,020
apparently the writers really enjoyed

2264
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:43,690
talking to so you know everybody takes

2265
01:46:52,530 --> 01:46:46,090
claim for the for the Langley name yeah

2266
01:46:58,830 --> 01:46:52,540
I'm going with Virginia don't don't kill

2267
01:47:02,490 --> 01:46:58,840
it for me okay that's good - I love

2268
01:47:06,750 --> 01:47:02,500
Vancouver the Pan Pacific Hotel up there

2269
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:06,760
is anyway this comes in from Walter and

2270
01:47:11,430 --> 01:47:09,610
I had to I had to get to this somehow

2271
01:47:14,700 --> 01:47:11,440
tonight Thank You Walter for doing this

2272
01:47:17,820 --> 01:47:14,710
he said can you please ask about the

2273
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:17,830
lone gunman show predicting 9/11 six

2274
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:20,650
months before it happened yeah

2275
01:47:26,550 --> 01:47:23,890
yes we had a spinoff of course called

2276
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:26,560
the lone gunman in season eight I guess

2277
01:47:33,810 --> 01:47:31,570
it was mm-hm x-files and yeah we did a

2278
01:47:38,100 --> 01:47:33,820
pilot episode written by Vince Gilligan

2279
01:47:39,570 --> 01:47:38,110
and in Chris Carter and in it we stopped

2280
01:47:41,820 --> 01:47:39,580
a plane from flying into the World Trade

2281
01:47:44,010 --> 01:47:41,830
Center six months before it actually

2282
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:44,020
happened and in it you know is green

2283
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:49,090
screened and and and the we use our

2284
01:47:52,740 --> 01:47:50,770
computers to get the control back to the

2285
01:47:55,050 --> 01:47:52,750
pilots at the last second before they

2286
01:47:57,630 --> 01:47:55,060
can fly it over the top when part of the

2287
01:47:59,820 --> 01:47:57,640
plot is that they're you know creating a

2288
01:48:02,100 --> 01:47:59,830
false flag operation to start an

2289
01:48:05,580 --> 01:48:02,110
international war on terror that was

2290
01:48:08,220 --> 01:48:05,590
also in the script so when 9/11 happened

2291
01:48:09,570 --> 01:48:08,230
I didn't even put it together until one

2292
01:48:12,180 --> 01:48:09,580
of the writers called me at home saying

2293
01:48:14,730 --> 01:48:12,190
are you watching this and then it really

2294
01:48:18,750 --> 01:48:14,740
sunk in oh my gosh this is exactly our

2295
01:48:21,330 --> 01:48:18,760
pilot episode and Vince had said that he

2296
01:48:23,490 --> 01:48:21,340
got it from a Tom Clancy novel that had

2297
01:48:28,140 --> 01:48:23,500
that written as a plot device in there

2298
01:48:30,210 --> 01:48:28,150
so so there was no you know it's another

2299
01:48:33,390 --> 01:48:30,220
one of those artistic moments where

2300
01:48:36,300 --> 01:48:33,400
you're channeling something

2301
01:48:39,959 --> 01:48:36,310
but at the same time you know it was it

2302
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:39,969
was very odd and then when Condoleezza

2303
01:48:43,110 --> 01:48:41,890
Rice going well there was nothing to

2304
01:48:46,260 --> 01:48:43,120
popular culture that could have

2305
01:48:48,300 --> 01:48:46,270
predicted this we were like right but

2306
01:48:52,189 --> 01:48:48,310
you know what was our show about how

2307
01:48:55,110 --> 01:48:52,199
well how did you feel I mean obviously

2308
01:48:58,649 --> 01:48:55,120
it had to affect you emotionally and

2309
01:49:01,140 --> 01:48:58,659
yeah and it's not funny stuff you know

2310
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:01,150
no how did you feel well it was chilling

2311
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:04,570
actually it was it was chilling and also

2312
01:49:12,450 --> 01:49:08,050
it made me somewhat curious you know was

2313
01:49:15,780 --> 01:49:12,460
this how did these two relay it out

2314
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:15,790
because even as I was watching it real

2315
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:17,890
time and seeing building 7 collapse it

2316
01:49:21,689 --> 01:49:20,050
seemed unbelievable and this is where I

2317
01:49:22,860 --> 01:49:21,699
think a lot of the you know the truth of

2318
01:49:25,979 --> 01:49:22,870
movement and all that sort of thing

2319
01:49:30,419 --> 01:49:25,989
comes up is that you know this all seems

2320
01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:30,429
so improbable and and then years later

2321
01:49:34,709 --> 01:49:32,560
I'm at San Diego comic-con and a writer

2322
01:49:36,630 --> 01:49:34,719
by the name of Alex Lightman comes up to

2323
01:49:39,020 --> 01:49:36,640
me and he said he's working on a book on

2324
01:49:42,750 --> 01:49:39,030
the connection between al-qaeda and

2325
01:49:46,229 --> 01:49:42,760
Hollywood and said to me that there had

2326
01:49:48,689 --> 01:49:46,239
multiple plans in place but then when

2327
01:49:50,729 --> 01:49:48,699
they saw the gunman episode they made

2328
01:49:54,899 --> 01:49:50,739
the World Trade Center there airy a plan

2329
01:49:57,780 --> 01:49:54,909
right after that so this also put the

2330
01:49:59,939 --> 01:49:57,790
burden on the show of like oh my gosh

2331
01:50:02,939 --> 01:49:59,949
that was more information than I needed

2332
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:02,949
to know exactly and when you read stuff

2333
01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:06,489
like well it could be any movie or it

2334
01:50:11,250 --> 01:50:08,800
could be any Tom Clancy novel but you

2335
01:50:12,959 --> 01:50:11,260
read this and or you see the movie and

2336
01:50:16,020 --> 01:50:12,969
you're like man you're just giving the

2337
01:50:19,890 --> 01:50:16,030
bad guys really good ideas that's

2338
01:50:22,380 --> 01:50:19,900
exactly in fact there's a what's a Tom

2339
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:22,390
Clancy Dorota know of a train robbery

2340
01:50:27,419 --> 01:50:25,690
and he said it was so well thought

2341
01:50:29,430 --> 01:50:27,429
through that he actually had to remove

2342
01:50:32,729 --> 01:50:29,440
details from the novel so that people

2343
01:50:35,550 --> 01:50:32,739
couldn't actually carry it out as a plan

2344
01:50:37,050 --> 01:50:35,560
that the way he wrote it so yeah these

2345
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:37,060
guys you know they spend hours thinking

2346
01:50:42,780 --> 01:50:41,050
these things through and and it's good

2347
01:50:44,100 --> 01:50:42,790
it's too good you put that in the

2348
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:44,110
consciousness you know collective

2349
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:46,650
unconsciousness then then it

2350
01:50:51,290 --> 01:50:49,650
deliberate Cortana just tweeted in the

2351
01:50:58,180 --> 01:50:51,300
new x-files series you have to wear a

2352
01:50:59,899 --> 01:50:58,190
fade to black t-shirt well raid well

2353
01:51:02,000 --> 01:50:59,909
I'll get you one

2354
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:02,010
and we're gonna obviously we're gonna

2355
01:51:07,990 --> 01:51:03,810
talk about the new x-files too as well

2356
01:51:11,209 --> 01:51:08,000
this is a great question though with all

2357
01:51:12,530 --> 01:51:11,219
of the taping and stuff on the set did

2358
01:51:15,169 --> 01:51:12,540
you guys ever have anything paranormal

2359
01:51:16,669 --> 01:51:15,179
happen anything weird happened on the

2360
01:51:21,410 --> 01:51:16,679
set that kind of freaked you guys out

2361
01:51:24,950 --> 01:51:21,420
UFO sighting goes NEETs walk across the

2362
01:51:26,919 --> 01:51:24,960
set you know no no II T's fact those

2363
01:51:29,750 --> 01:51:26,929
were always said all the aliens were

2364
01:51:33,530 --> 01:51:29,760
little girls from a ballerina school

2365
01:51:35,330 --> 01:51:33,540
outside of in Coquitlam because it used

2366
01:51:37,490 --> 01:51:35,340
to be in the first season little little

2367
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:37,500
boys from a karate school but then they

2368
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:38,730
would punch each other in the head and

2369
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:42,090
tear the foam rubber heads so they

2370
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:44,449
started hiring little girls to be aliens

2371
01:51:51,229 --> 01:51:47,010
throughout the series so those were all

2372
01:51:55,250 --> 01:51:51,239
we do those but the episode triangle

2373
01:51:57,950 --> 01:51:55,260
which was shot on the Queen Mary down in

2374
01:52:02,750 --> 01:51:57,960
Long Beach all the cast and crew stayed

2375
01:52:04,399 --> 01:52:02,760
on the ship while filming that not all

2376
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:04,409
the cast but a lot of the extra you know

2377
01:52:08,510 --> 01:52:06,330
as many people as they could fit on the

2378
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:08,520
Queen Mary and all of them started

2379
01:52:12,919 --> 01:52:10,770
having you know they'd hear the child's

2380
01:52:15,410 --> 01:52:12,929
laughter because they both completely

2381
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:15,420
haunted that boats completely haunted

2382
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:20,010
and I have since done other shows there

2383
01:52:26,630 --> 01:52:23,370
for ghost ghost tours and and the ghost

2384
01:52:30,140 --> 01:52:26,640
adventure guys were there and there's a

2385
01:52:32,660 --> 01:52:30,150
room a hotel room at the very bottom by

2386
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:32,670
the back engine room that is so creepy

2387
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:34,890
I couldn't even spend the night there it

2388
01:52:39,979 --> 01:52:37,440
was cold it looked like it was foggy in

2389
01:52:42,620 --> 01:52:39,989
the room like it had the creepiest

2390
01:52:43,970 --> 01:52:42,630
energy you could ever imagine and I was

2391
01:52:45,709 --> 01:52:43,980
supposed to stay in the fate and I left

2392
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:45,719
after an hour and I just drove to that

2393
01:52:54,050 --> 01:52:50,610
boat so you know the the Chelsea Hotel

2394
01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:54,060
in uh in Manhattan yes yes I stayed

2395
01:52:58,000 --> 01:52:57,330
there was yeah so I was on tour with the

2396
01:53:00,790 --> 01:52:58,010
band and

2397
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:00,800
we're booked at the Chelsea and this is

2398
01:53:05,620 --> 01:53:03,530
a true story man this is God strike me

2399
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:05,630
dead right now so we're we all go in

2400
01:53:11,380 --> 01:53:09,290
we're on tour with a Soundgarden and so

2401
01:53:13,810 --> 01:53:11,390
we get to Manhattan this is like 1989

2402
01:53:16,860 --> 01:53:13,820
and we get there and we we all check-in

2403
01:53:20,740 --> 01:53:16,870
to the Chelsea and I go into my room and

2404
01:53:23,470 --> 01:53:20,750
I put my bags down and I'm there for

2405
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:23,480
about 15 minutes and I'm like man this

2406
01:53:28,300 --> 01:53:26,090
place is haunted I don't dig this place

2407
01:53:32,470 --> 01:53:28,310
I picked up my bags and I went out to

2408
01:53:37,270 --> 01:53:32,480
the tour bus I'm like I'm spending the

2409
01:53:41,650 --> 01:53:37,280
night I'm not sleeping at the Chelsea

2410
01:53:45,340 --> 01:53:41,660
that's a true story I freaked out yeah I

2411
01:53:48,580 --> 01:53:45,350
probably got Sid Nancy's for all exactly

2412
01:53:50,470 --> 01:53:48,590
yeah well there is nothing but bad

2413
01:53:54,730 --> 01:53:50,480
things went down of this Chelsea picker

2414
01:53:57,220 --> 01:53:54,740
room yeah yeah cool and you know as

2415
01:53:58,810 --> 01:53:57,230
historic as that place was I could not

2416
01:54:00,310 --> 01:53:58,820
stay in that room I stayed on the bus

2417
01:54:03,460 --> 01:54:00,320
that night that's a true story

2418
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:03,470
but but the Queen Mary is just like that

2419
01:54:09,100 --> 01:54:06,770
you get on that boat and you walk down

2420
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:09,110
the hallways and you just kind of look

2421
01:54:13,210 --> 01:54:10,970
over and feel it that that boat is

2422
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:13,220
haunted man haunted yeah and they don't

2423
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:15,890
let anybody in the pool much anymore you

2424
01:54:19,750 --> 01:54:18,410
know they used to tour through the pool

2425
01:54:21,340 --> 01:54:19,760
because there was a murder in there and

2426
01:54:23,740 --> 01:54:21,350
somebody drowned in there and so the

2427
01:54:26,110 --> 01:54:23,750
pool room itself was to me the creepiest

2428
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:26,120
particularly on the changing room side

2429
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:29,930
which they said now due to so many tours

2430
01:54:33,580 --> 01:54:32,090
going through they don't rip people

2431
01:54:35,260 --> 01:54:33,590
though because the tile is falling off

2432
01:54:37,540 --> 01:54:35,270
and stuff like that but I think it's

2433
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:37,550
because so many people have had creepy

2434
01:54:42,550 --> 01:54:40,010
experiences the one that's even more

2435
01:54:45,610 --> 01:54:42,560
horrific that nobody goes except this

2436
01:54:51,190 --> 01:54:45,620
one ghost hunting a group managed to get

2437
01:54:53,170 --> 01:54:51,200
down to the waterline and underneath the

2438
01:54:55,930 --> 01:54:53,180
waterline is where they brought back 300

2439
01:54:58,090 --> 01:54:55,940
German prisoners after World War Two and

2440
01:55:00,310 --> 01:54:58,100
not all of them made it and so one of

2441
01:55:02,890 --> 01:55:00,320
the Ghost Hunters spoke German and when

2442
01:55:05,340 --> 01:55:02,900
he was calling down into the black urban

2443
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:05,350
inky depths below the waterline

2444
01:55:11,740 --> 01:55:09,010
everybody's k2 meter started just

2445
01:55:13,810 --> 01:55:11,750
scaling off the charts so

2446
01:55:16,540 --> 01:55:13,820
that was to me the creepiest part of the

2447
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:16,550
boat is where you can't go and you can

2448
01:55:20,740 --> 01:55:19,130
tell there's one other thing that is is

2449
01:55:23,770 --> 01:55:20,750
funky and you just bring up the water

2450
01:55:25,359 --> 01:55:23,780
line when you when you go when you get

2451
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:25,369
to the Queen Mary and you look at it and

2452
01:55:29,620 --> 01:55:27,050
the way it's floating in the water it's

2453
01:55:31,950 --> 01:55:29,630
just it's it's too it's too damn big it

2454
01:55:34,390 --> 01:55:31,960
doesn't it shouldn't float right but

2455
01:55:36,580 --> 01:55:34,400
right it's huge and then you're looking

2456
01:55:38,979 --> 01:55:36,590
at the water line and the way that the

2457
01:55:41,890 --> 01:55:38,989
boat is it's funny you bring this up

2458
01:55:44,890 --> 01:55:41,900
because when I when you go on to the

2459
01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:44,900
Queen Mary and you can tell when you're

2460
01:55:49,870 --> 01:55:47,360
above the water line and you can tell

2461
01:55:52,810 --> 01:55:49,880
how the atmosphere changes on the boat

2462
01:55:54,939 --> 01:55:52,820
when you go below the water line and I'm

2463
01:55:57,399 --> 01:55:54,949
telling you right now you go below the

2464
01:55:58,120 --> 01:55:57,409
waterline and the creepiness sets in on

2465
01:56:01,479 --> 01:55:58,130
that boat

2466
01:56:03,669 --> 01:56:01,489
yeah it really it's scary it's yeah it's

2467
01:56:05,740 --> 01:56:03,679
almost as if it's like some sort of

2468
01:56:07,899 --> 01:56:05,750
refrigerator for the ghosts or something

2469
01:56:11,259 --> 01:56:07,909
like they they can't go through water or

2470
01:56:14,259 --> 01:56:11,269
something it's like weird but it does it

2471
01:56:19,660 --> 01:56:14,269
does yeah just a phobic Worcester phobic

2472
01:56:25,959 --> 01:56:19,670
dank humid funky it's just it's a it's a

2473
01:56:28,450 --> 01:56:25,969
wrong place to be and and I know we're

2474
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:28,460
up against the brakes so yeah let's talk

2475
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:33,530
about the new x-files and we'll set this

2476
01:56:43,299 --> 01:56:39,170
up are you involved well you know the

2477
01:56:46,689 --> 01:56:43,309
thing during the regular ten seasons is

2478
01:56:49,209 --> 01:56:46,699
that we would get a call maybe five days

2479
01:56:52,149 --> 01:56:49,219
in advance for days and events and they

2480
01:56:54,129 --> 01:56:52,159
said come to set and we'd be handed a

2481
01:56:58,180 --> 01:56:54,139
script and and that would pretty much be

2482
01:57:01,029 --> 01:56:58,190
how much warning we had so we imagined

2483
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:01,039
that this is gonna be the case again so

2484
01:57:06,879 --> 01:57:04,010
we'll be the last to know if we're doing

2485
01:57:08,859 --> 01:57:06,889
it oh you left this wide open good I'm

2486
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:08,869
gonna drill you when we get back let's

2487
01:57:11,830 --> 01:57:10,010
take a quick break

2488
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:11,840
this is fade to black tonight Dean

2489
01:57:16,569 --> 01:57:14,090
Haglund is with us of the x-files and

2490
01:57:18,399 --> 01:57:16,579
UFOs the truth is out there we'll be

2491
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:18,409
back right after this short break I'm

2492
01:57:23,890 --> 01:57:20,570
gonna find out what's going on

2493
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:23,900
with these six episodes of x-files Part

2494
01:57:28,690 --> 01:57:26,570
D this is fade to black army rose to be

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church more with Dean Haglund after this

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in the desert so join me in Joshua Tree

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another awesome lineup of speakers

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including publisher of legendary times

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bestselling author David Wilcock

2545
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journalist and conspiracy expert Jim

2546
01:59:46,740 --> 01:59:44,290
Marrs former head of UFO project for the

2547
01:59:48,049 --> 01:59:46,750
mo D Nick Pope investigative reporter

2548
01:59:51,229 --> 01:59:48,059
Linda Moulton Howe

2549
01:59:53,899 --> 01:59:51,239
author and contactee Travis Walton UFO

2550
01:59:56,060 --> 01:59:53,909
historian Richard Dolan and many more

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2557
02:00:17,479 --> 02:00:14,750
you never got that pony dammit

2558
02:00:20,510 --> 02:00:17,489
this is fade to black with Jimmy Church

2559
02:00:24,860 --> 02:00:20,520
on the game changer radio network and K

2560
02:00:31,210 --> 02:00:24,870
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02:00:31,220 --> 02:00:35,299
[Music]

2562
02:00:40,189 --> 02:00:37,390
all right welcome back fade to black

2563
02:00:43,729 --> 02:00:40,199
misspoke radio for the masses on the

2564
02:00:46,459 --> 02:00:43,739
game changer Network Kate GRA the planet

2565
02:00:49,700 --> 02:00:46,469
I'm the host of a church tonight Dean

2566
02:00:52,430 --> 02:00:49,710
Haglund is with us live from downtown LA

2567
02:00:54,740 --> 02:00:52,440
hey Dean the next time we get you on

2568
02:00:56,510 --> 02:00:54,750
you've got to come in live in the studio

2569
02:00:58,040 --> 02:00:56,520
yeah I would love that

2570
02:01:02,470 --> 02:00:58,050
need some planning to get all the way

2571
02:01:07,609 --> 02:01:02,480
out there absolutely we'll send a car

2572
02:01:09,979 --> 02:01:07,619
we'll send a car all right now let's

2573
02:01:14,510 --> 02:01:09,989
talk about have you have you talked to

2574
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:14,520
Chris about X Files Part D I know I

2575
02:01:21,260 --> 02:01:17,250
haven't he's been really busy and you

2576
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:21,270
know I would prefer to wait to hear as

2577
02:01:24,500 --> 02:01:23,130
opposed to are we in it because I know

2578
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:24,510
they even haven't hired all the writers

2579
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:27,690
yet so it would be a little premature to

2580
02:01:32,689 --> 02:01:30,570
go hey are we doing this and and then

2581
02:01:34,819 --> 02:01:32,699
they not even having the whole things

2582
02:01:37,310 --> 02:01:34,829
structured out yet so you don't think

2583
02:01:40,279 --> 02:01:37,320
all six episodes are written or at least

2584
02:01:44,180 --> 02:01:40,289
storyboarded you know there's you know I

2585
02:01:46,819 --> 02:01:44,190
don't think maybe they are outlined at

2586
02:01:49,189 --> 02:01:46,829
best to sort of cap it but I don't think

2587
02:01:52,180 --> 02:01:49,199
they're written and yet even though they

2588
02:01:56,029 --> 02:01:52,190
plan to start shooting fairly soon they

2589
02:01:59,479 --> 02:01:56,039
they probably are gonna write as they go

2590
02:02:02,240 --> 02:01:59,489
just to make sure that you know as they

2591
02:02:03,859 --> 02:02:02,250
did on the show they could sort of pick

2592
02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:03,869
up on the energy of the from the last

2593
02:02:08,839 --> 02:02:07,170
one to the next one what what do you

2594
02:02:11,839 --> 02:02:08,849
know are they gonna shoot in Vancouver

2595
02:02:14,149 --> 02:02:11,849
yes the chute de Vancouver if you follow

2596
02:02:15,740 --> 02:02:14,159
William B Davis the cigarette smoking

2597
02:02:18,169 --> 02:02:15,750
man his Twitter feed he's he's to be

2598
02:02:20,330 --> 02:02:18,179
given up a lot of information about the

2599
02:02:22,100 --> 02:02:20,340
show so he's in it

2600
02:02:25,959 --> 02:02:22,110
Mitch Pileggi who played the agent

2601
02:02:30,100 --> 02:02:25,969
Skinner he's doing all six apparently

2602
02:02:32,990 --> 02:02:30,110
shot in Vancouver David Gillian I'm

2603
02:02:36,379 --> 02:02:33,000
Chris Carter's in I don't know a Frank

2604
02:02:37,069 --> 02:02:36,389
Spotnitz I haven't seen he say anything

2605
02:02:40,010 --> 02:02:37,079
about it

2606
02:02:41,540 --> 02:02:40,020
so he's in London working on a lot of

2607
02:02:44,569 --> 02:02:41,550
stuff so I'm not sure if he's gonna

2608
02:02:46,669 --> 02:02:44,579
relocate for this or not and then of

2609
02:02:49,070 --> 02:02:46,679
course Vance is busy with the better

2610
02:02:51,890 --> 02:02:49,080
call Saul right oh I

2611
02:02:53,420 --> 02:02:51,900
they're bringing in new writers and I

2612
02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:53,430
imagine that they're figuring that out

2613
02:02:55,670 --> 02:02:54,210
right now

2614
02:02:59,690 --> 02:02:55,680
when does the principal photography

2615
02:03:03,170 --> 02:02:59,700
kickoff supposedly June but I imagine it

2616
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:03,180
will be July ish when that finally goes

2617
02:03:11,150 --> 02:03:05,610
have you had a wardrobe person come by

2618
02:03:13,090 --> 02:03:11,160
and measure you yes any indication at

2619
02:03:16,370 --> 02:03:13,100
all I mean you're looking for something

2620
02:03:20,870 --> 02:03:16,380
ya know I even emailed the other two

2621
02:03:23,180 --> 02:03:20,880
guys Tom and Bruce and Bruce of course

2622
02:03:24,710 --> 02:03:23,190
lives in Vancouver so you would think if

2623
02:03:26,240 --> 02:03:24,720
there is a wardrobe person no they're

2624
02:03:26,960 --> 02:03:26,250
measuring somebody who they would go to

2625
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:26,970
him first

2626
02:03:32,830 --> 02:03:30,210
but but no there hasn't been any

2627
02:03:37,730 --> 02:03:32,840
indication which again is not outside

2628
02:03:41,870 --> 02:03:37,740
the par-4 course for the gunman we were

2629
02:03:45,350 --> 02:03:41,880
always really flexible and easy to deal

2630
02:03:47,180 --> 02:03:45,360
with so there was no advanced worry when

2631
02:03:51,980 --> 02:03:47,190
it came to getting us on the show

2632
02:03:58,190 --> 02:03:51,990
have you signed an NDA I have not signed

2633
02:04:01,270 --> 02:03:58,200
an NDA and in fact I have you know there

2634
02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:01,280
is the YouTube video of me at Comic Con

2635
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:05,850
pressing Chris Carter on on making him

2636
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:09,210
admit that the IDW season 10 comic book

2637
02:04:14,510 --> 02:04:11,690
was part of the official canon and

2638
02:04:16,550 --> 02:04:14,520
they're putting that now as a indicator

2639
02:04:18,770 --> 02:04:16,560
that I knew something that the six

2640
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:18,780
episodes were coming but that is not the

2641
02:04:21,620 --> 02:04:21,330
case you're dancing you're dancing right

2642
02:04:31,010 --> 02:04:21,630
now

2643
02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:31,020
first I would I would tell awesome

2644
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:33,570
waited like announced to everybody but

2645
02:04:38,510 --> 02:04:36,210
the gunmen are alive in the IDW comic

2646
02:04:39,260 --> 02:04:38,520
book and that's official canon of

2647
02:04:44,090 --> 02:04:39,270
x-files

2648
02:04:46,970 --> 02:04:44,100
so technically all all gates are open

2649
02:04:49,910 --> 02:04:46,980
for us to be beyond the the six well

2650
02:04:52,450 --> 02:04:49,920
yeah there's that aspect but also how

2651
02:04:55,730 --> 02:04:52,460
can they not have you that's the thing

2652
02:04:58,340 --> 02:04:55,740
well I would think that the the comic

2653
02:05:01,660 --> 02:04:58,350
book showed us off to be hiding under

2654
02:05:02,900 --> 02:05:01,670
the Arlington Cemetery in a basement

2655
02:05:05,510 --> 02:05:02,910
conspiracy

2656
02:05:07,970 --> 02:05:05,520
for the last 20 years I would think

2657
02:05:09,620 --> 02:05:07,980
you'd be cut it easy to go yeah this guy

2658
02:05:11,810 --> 02:05:09,630
said they're just in a basement they'll

2659
02:05:15,500 --> 02:05:11,820
refuse to come out so it would be easy

2660
02:05:18,980 --> 02:05:15,510
to to mention us and not and not

2661
02:05:21,560 --> 02:05:18,990
actually have us on the show but at the

2662
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:21,570
same time I you know it would be a

2663
02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:26,010
travesty to to go back and and visit

2664
02:05:30,860 --> 02:05:27,930
everything and that's not how to show up

2665
02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:30,870
do you think that there is a tremendous

2666
02:05:34,730 --> 02:05:32,970
amount of secrecy around this there's

2667
02:05:37,160 --> 02:05:34,740
been enough leaking of you know that

2668
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:37,170
this is you know the details had to get

2669
02:05:41,750 --> 02:05:38,730
worked out for schedules between you

2670
02:05:43,250 --> 02:05:41,760
know Duchovny and you know that you know

2671
02:05:45,380 --> 02:05:43,260
everybody else is working on different

2672
02:05:47,480 --> 02:05:45,390
projects certainly the leaking of this

2673
02:05:49,700 --> 02:05:47,490
did come out over the last six months

2674
02:05:51,770 --> 02:05:49,710
that part of it they haven't you know

2675
02:05:54,350 --> 02:05:51,780
kept secret but do you think right now

2676
02:05:56,810 --> 02:05:54,360
it is completely tightly under wraps oh

2677
02:05:59,060 --> 02:05:56,820
yeah absolutely you know is this like a

2678
02:06:02,270 --> 02:05:59,070
Star Wars script you know what I mean

2679
02:06:06,590 --> 02:06:02,280
absolutely even they first x-files movie

2680
02:06:09,470 --> 02:06:06,600
the fight the future they each you got

2681
02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:09,480
only your lines you got it on red paper

2682
02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:11,850
so you can photocopy it mmm

2683
02:06:17,450 --> 02:06:15,930
it had your name stamped on every page

2684
02:06:20,120 --> 02:06:17,460
plus there is apparently a secret

2685
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:20,130
watermark so that they can tightly

2686
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:22,770
controlled the entire script and yet it

2687
02:06:26,810 --> 02:06:24,330
still showed up in the National Enquirer

2688
02:06:29,540 --> 02:06:26,820
the week we were shooting so you know

2689
02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:29,550
you try and you try to keep your secrecy

2690
02:06:35,440 --> 02:06:32,130
but it's it's hard to do you want to

2691
02:06:42,470 --> 02:06:35,450
take some phone calls yes absolutely

2692
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:42,480
let's do this 3 2 3 8 2 5 50 45 3 2 3 8

2693
02:06:49,460 --> 02:06:45,890
2 5 50 45 we run on a 20 second delay

2694
02:06:57,490 --> 02:06:49,470
Dean so we'll wait for those phone calls

2695
02:07:00,860 --> 02:06:57,500
to start flooding in combination of both

2696
02:07:03,710 --> 02:07:00,870
yeah I do have I do have the dump button

2697
02:07:07,310 --> 02:07:03,720
right here just in case I said yeah 3 2

2698
02:07:08,510 --> 02:07:07,320
3 8 2 5 50 45 you can also Skype in fade

2699
02:07:12,530 --> 02:07:08,520
to black

2700
02:07:15,380 --> 02:07:12,540
14 Dean Haglund and here we go there's

2701
02:07:16,220 --> 02:07:15,390
the 20-second delay and let's go to our

2702
02:07:19,940 --> 02:07:16,230
first

2703
02:07:25,250 --> 02:07:19,950
Koller and let me click here okay say hi

2704
02:07:28,490 --> 02:07:25,260
to Dean Haglund hello hello Jimmy hello

2705
02:07:30,470 --> 02:07:28,500
Dean right this is Dino hey Dino hi I

2706
02:07:32,780 --> 02:07:30,480
know you've been asking very good

2707
02:07:34,970 --> 02:07:32,790
questions Jimmy but I wanted to draw a

2708
02:07:38,570 --> 02:07:34,980
parallel and ask you Dean I know you're

2709
02:07:41,360 --> 02:07:38,580
an actor but your show The X Files which

2710
02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:41,370
I was a big fan of was very similar to

2711
02:07:45,590 --> 02:07:43,170
Miami Vice and what you talked about a

2712
02:07:48,410 --> 02:07:45,600
while ago that a lot of times the plots

2713
02:07:50,900 --> 02:07:48,420
like we'd watch Miami Vice and we would

2714
02:07:53,660 --> 02:07:50,910
see some guy from Colombia bringing in

2715
02:07:56,060 --> 02:07:53,670
drugs on a boat and there was some twist

2716
02:08:00,020 --> 02:07:56,070
and the week after I'd watched Miami

2717
02:08:02,390 --> 02:08:00,030
Vice you'd see it in the news you

2718
02:08:04,100 --> 02:08:02,400
remember I mean never why it's funny

2719
02:08:06,229 --> 02:08:04,110
that you mention that I'm watching Miami

2720
02:08:10,010 --> 02:08:06,239
Vice now and reruns on El Rey Network

2721
02:08:12,710 --> 02:08:10,020
and it is it seemed to be very

2722
02:08:14,810 --> 02:08:12,720
progressive ahead of its time in terms

2723
02:08:17,900 --> 02:08:14,820
of the drug dealing going on well that

2724
02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:17,910
leads to my question okay Dino make it

2725
02:08:22,100 --> 02:08:20,250
quick I've got caught yeah that's right

2726
02:08:23,270 --> 02:08:22,110
well that that's why I'm sorry to cut

2727
02:08:26,210 --> 02:08:23,280
you off but that's what I'm trying to

2728
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:26,220
say is with all this going on and the

2729
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:27,810
fact that you have been around I know

2730
02:08:32,930 --> 02:08:30,570
you talked about ghosts but can you tell

2731
02:08:35,450 --> 02:08:32,940
me did you feel any need since the

2732
02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:35,460
x-files to look into a lot of these

2733
02:08:39,860 --> 02:08:38,130
things that are probably going on do you

2734
02:08:41,780 --> 02:08:39,870
have any need I mean I know you're an

2735
02:08:43,700 --> 02:08:41,790
actor and you gotta be a change with the

2736
02:08:45,710 --> 02:08:43,710
times but don't you have any real

2737
02:08:47,510 --> 02:08:45,720
concern that some of those things are

2738
02:08:49,430 --> 02:08:47,520
true onyx why absolutely and that was

2739
02:08:51,740 --> 02:08:49,440
the documentary that we did the truth is

2740
02:08:55,130 --> 02:08:51,750
out there was to sort of explore that

2741
02:08:57,200 --> 02:08:55,140
and have you know I only have a limited

2742
02:08:59,030 --> 02:08:57,210
amount of time so people who have

2743
02:09:02,210 --> 02:08:59,040
devoted their lives to this research I

2744
02:09:06,590 --> 02:09:02,220
want to give them a voice in a in our

2745
02:09:08,690 --> 02:09:06,600
documentary to allow them to to say the

2746
02:09:10,010 --> 02:09:08,700
truth and the reality for them behind a

2747
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:10,020
lot of these things that were talked

2748
02:09:14,840 --> 02:09:12,330
about in the x-files so yeah I hope you

2749
02:09:16,250 --> 02:09:14,850
check out our documentary dino high your

2750
02:09:17,630 --> 02:09:16,260
life on fade to black thank you for the

2751
02:09:19,190 --> 02:09:17,640
call do you know how your live on fade

2752
02:09:24,590 --> 02:09:19,200
to black who's calling say hi to Dean

2753
02:09:30,209 --> 02:09:24,600
Haglund hey this is Lenny or Leonard oh

2754
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:30,219
hi Leonard on Facebook as judge yes

2755
02:09:37,479 --> 02:09:33,170
judge that's all backwards

2756
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:37,489
I know I know I know who Leonard is but

2757
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:39,650
we'll talk about that later Leonard you

2758
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:42,530
have a question for Dean yeah I do

2759
02:09:47,830 --> 02:09:45,290
actually I was wondering well first off

2760
02:09:51,490 --> 02:09:47,840
huge fan of the x-files and really

2761
02:09:54,580 --> 02:09:51,500
really love the show especially you and

2762
02:09:56,770 --> 02:09:54,590
I can't remember his name but your buddy

2763
02:10:01,570 --> 02:09:56,780
on the show I thought I would Tom

2764
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:01,580
Brangwyn yes thank you you guys kill it

2765
02:10:07,959 --> 02:10:04,610
thank you yeah that's that's awesome my

2766
02:10:11,410 --> 02:10:07,969
question is do you are there any like

2767
02:10:13,570 --> 02:10:11,420
paranormal activities I know you said

2768
02:10:15,430 --> 02:10:13,580
you never saw any UFOs or anything but

2769
02:10:18,660 --> 02:10:15,440
they're there any stories on the set of

2770
02:10:26,020 --> 02:10:18,670
x-files that had any sort of paranormal

2771
02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:26,030
anything going on you know as I went to

2772
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:28,850
comedy clouds there would always be you

2773
02:10:34,209 --> 02:10:30,770
know guys coming up to me afterwards and

2774
02:10:36,820 --> 02:10:34,219
and particularly military was just after

2775
02:10:38,350 --> 02:10:36,830
the first Gulf War and a lot of people

2776
02:10:39,160 --> 02:10:38,360
coming back with Gulf War Syndrome and

2777
02:10:40,979 --> 02:10:39,170
stuff like that

2778
02:10:43,540 --> 02:10:40,989
would tell me some pretty incredible

2779
02:10:46,690 --> 02:10:43,550
details not just of what happened over

2780
02:10:50,350 --> 02:10:46,700
there but coming back here and working

2781
02:10:53,020 --> 02:10:50,360
down in the bases down in Panama at the

2782
02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:53,030
School of the Americas alumni it was

2783
02:10:59,670 --> 02:10:54,890
seemed to be a lot of activity just

2784
02:11:03,010 --> 02:10:59,680
after the first Gulf War in in

2785
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:03,020
extraterrestrial or experimental crafts

2786
02:11:07,060 --> 02:11:04,450
of some sort

2787
02:11:08,470 --> 02:11:07,070
interesting I've actually a bended the

2788
02:11:10,570 --> 02:11:08,480
School of the Americas I lived down

2789
02:11:12,970 --> 02:11:10,580
there is that right yep I lived in

2790
02:11:17,290 --> 02:11:12,980
Panama and School of the Americas was at

2791
02:11:19,660 --> 02:11:17,300
Fort Clayton right yes absolutely for a

2792
02:11:23,200 --> 02:11:19,670
quick UFO story from that area yeah

2793
02:11:26,860 --> 02:11:23,210
absolutely I do go ahead so this guy his

2794
02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:26,870
knees turned to butter from whatever the

2795
02:11:32,320 --> 02:11:29,810
Gulf War Syndrome was and so his detail

2796
02:11:34,720 --> 02:11:32,330
was just to be a guard at the two

2797
02:11:38,260 --> 02:11:34,730
hangars at the school of America which

2798
02:11:40,660 --> 02:11:38,270
was the easy you know tropical gig for

2799
02:11:42,300 --> 02:11:40,670
US military personnel yesterday they had

2800
02:11:45,930 --> 02:11:42,310
one morning

2801
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:45,940
four am one of the other guys patrolling

2802
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:49,210
the beach said a American submarine a

2803
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:50,890
surfaced and they're having a barbecue

2804
02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:53,050
on the beach and it's a restricted area

2805
02:11:56,340 --> 02:11:55,360
so he drives out what are you doing

2806
02:11:58,470 --> 02:11:56,350
we're having a barbecue

2807
02:12:00,780 --> 02:11:58,480
why'd now because we're hungry you know

2808
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:00,790
just stonewalling like that and then all

2809
02:12:05,850 --> 02:12:02,890
of a sudden at the front and there's the

2810
02:12:08,130 --> 02:12:05,860
one road in at the gate he gets a call

2811
02:12:10,620 --> 02:12:08,140
there's a car with three-star generals

2812
02:12:14,100 --> 02:12:10,630
three of them in this car wanted to come

2813
02:12:15,420 --> 02:12:14,110
in and it's now 4:00 a.m. it's like

2814
02:12:17,610 --> 02:12:15,430
what's it so he goes over there what are

2815
02:12:20,640 --> 02:12:17,620
you guys doing here we can't tell you

2816
02:12:21,990 --> 02:12:20,650
you know we're not allowed to let you in

2817
02:12:24,510 --> 02:12:22,000
we you know we have to follow you you

2818
02:12:25,710 --> 02:12:24,520
can't do that and one of the generals

2819
02:12:27,420 --> 02:12:25,720
gives them a number says call this

2820
02:12:28,380 --> 02:12:27,430
number and he recognizes the exchange as

2821
02:12:31,020 --> 02:12:28,390
the Pentagon

2822
02:12:33,420 --> 02:12:31,030
so he says okay fine go in and just as

2823
02:12:35,610 --> 02:12:33,430
they drive up a helicopter lands on one

2824
02:12:38,190 --> 02:12:35,620
of the hangars they see a guy run out of

2825
02:12:40,980 --> 02:12:38,200
the helicopter holding something about

2826
02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:40,990
three and a half feet long in a cloth he

2827
02:12:48,120 --> 02:12:45,330
runs in through the roof stairwell

2828
02:12:50,070 --> 02:12:48,130
everybody's left outside then everybody

2829
02:12:52,230 --> 02:12:50,080
runs out back into the car and they

2830
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:52,240
drive to the beach at which point the

2831
02:12:56,220 --> 02:12:54,010
guys kick over the barbecue and go out

2832
02:12:58,890 --> 02:12:56,230
into the submarine and the submarine

2833
02:13:00,840 --> 02:12:58,900
dives and they track it and it goes

2834
02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:00,850
through the Panama Canal and comes up to

2835
02:13:05,790 --> 02:13:03,850
see Accord tez and all of these guys

2836
02:13:08,340 --> 02:13:05,800
discuss it and the best they can come up

2837
02:13:10,980 --> 02:13:08,350
with is that that was an injured alien

2838
02:13:13,320 --> 02:13:10,990
et and that they were taking it to area

2839
02:13:18,510 --> 02:13:13,330
51 to save its life hmm there was a

2840
02:13:23,340 --> 02:13:18,520
submarine base there I can't remember

2841
02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:23,350
the rodman and and the nuclear subs were

2842
02:13:27,960 --> 02:13:25,810
parked right there I could walk out to

2843
02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:27,970
the the side of my house and look across

2844
02:13:34,680 --> 02:13:32,290
the canal there and sit there yeah and

2845
02:13:36,180 --> 02:13:34,690
so I you know once in a while I would

2846
02:13:38,340 --> 02:13:36,190
see them cruising in and out of the

2847
02:13:40,620 --> 02:13:38,350
canal so yes there were submarines down

2848
02:13:42,330 --> 02:13:40,630
there constantly all right I'm just

2849
02:13:45,330 --> 02:13:42,340
wondering what Beach they would have

2850
02:13:46,890 --> 02:13:45,340
been at but because I frequented them

2851
02:13:50,250 --> 02:13:46,900
all hi you're live on fade to black

2852
02:13:53,730 --> 02:13:50,260
say hi to Dean Haglund who's calling hi

2853
02:13:56,070 --> 02:13:53,740
Dean this was barren Santa Clara and my

2854
02:13:58,650 --> 02:13:56,080
question is is did they do liberal

2855
02:14:02,000 --> 02:13:58,660
Natacha x-files when they changed out

2856
02:14:03,210 --> 02:14:02,010
the two main actors you know Dave and

2857
02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:03,220
Danis

2858
02:14:07,620 --> 02:14:04,530
[Music]

2859
02:14:10,860 --> 02:14:07,630
at jillion account number yeah Gillian

2860
02:14:13,650 --> 02:14:10,870
Anderson yeah yeah when they switch them

2861
02:14:16,590 --> 02:14:13,660
out was that was that purposely to

2862
02:14:19,500 --> 02:14:16,600
sabotage the program to lower the

2863
02:14:25,110 --> 02:14:19,510
ratings I take it you weren't a big fan

2864
02:14:29,340 --> 02:14:25,120
that of Annabeth Gish and and Robert

2865
02:14:32,550 --> 02:14:29,350
Patrick you know III think it really

2866
02:14:37,350 --> 02:14:32,560
took a tailspin when they started

2867
02:14:45,570 --> 02:14:37,360
switching them out because chemistry

2868
02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:45,580
that just you know made it work how rare

2869
02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:47,410
it is to have that kind of chemistry the

2870
02:14:52,080 --> 02:14:50,410
audition process for that role was

2871
02:14:55,100 --> 02:14:52,090
extensive and people they looked at

2872
02:15:00,090 --> 02:14:55,110
included Ben Stiller

2873
02:15:06,840 --> 02:15:00,100
Kyle Secor from homicide life in the

2874
02:15:08,250 --> 02:15:06,850
streets they looked at the guy from army

2875
02:15:13,110 --> 02:15:08,260
of darkness why can't I remember his

2876
02:15:14,760 --> 02:15:13,120
name wasn't that the guy we were talking

2877
02:15:18,600 --> 02:15:14,770
about that earlier today he was in that

2878
02:15:22,460 --> 02:15:18,610
movie out there with Rod Steiger yeah

2879
02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:33,300
we should both be Chelsea anyway you

2880
02:15:42,560 --> 02:15:36,970
know Bruce yeah this camp yes Bruce

2881
02:15:43,740 --> 02:15:42,570
Campbell oh gosh they'd be me King

2882
02:15:47,490 --> 02:15:43,750
exactly

2883
02:15:50,430 --> 02:15:47,500
so so they had a wide range of actors

2884
02:15:51,690 --> 02:15:50,440
auditioning for this part and a lot of

2885
02:15:54,360 --> 02:15:51,700
the females came in and they were like

2886
02:15:57,450 --> 02:15:54,370
trying to mix and match and and figure

2887
02:15:59,460 --> 02:15:57,460
out also the tone like the tone of the

2888
02:16:01,370 --> 02:15:59,470
show so they weren't deliberately

2889
02:16:03,510 --> 02:16:01,380
sabotaging it they were trying to do

2890
02:16:05,370 --> 02:16:03,520
take it to a new direction but

2891
02:16:07,170 --> 02:16:05,380
originally you know Chris Carter just

2892
02:16:09,450 --> 02:16:07,180
wanted to do five seasons and then do

2893
02:16:13,190 --> 02:16:09,460
movies but Fox said no you have to

2894
02:16:15,900 --> 02:16:13,200
keep doing the show because we own it so

2895
02:16:19,170 --> 02:16:15,910
it became harder and harder each season

2896
02:16:20,940 --> 02:16:19,180
to continually outdo themselves from the

2897
02:16:23,850 --> 02:16:20,950
previous season that's a great call

2898
02:16:29,370 --> 02:16:23,860
Thank You bear and by the way I like the

2899
02:16:32,250 --> 02:16:29,380
Lone Gunmen will roll off on that - wow

2900
02:16:33,990 --> 02:16:32,260
that was pretty cool and you know I like

2901
02:16:36,180 --> 02:16:34,000
that little that little part you had

2902
02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:36,190
played in there it's like the molders

2903
02:16:47,940 --> 02:16:45,250
little that was great it gave you know

2904
02:16:49,950 --> 02:16:47,950
the show the character and then but you

2905
02:16:52,650 --> 02:16:49,960
know the chemistry of the show I think

2906
02:16:56,490 --> 02:16:52,660
this really you know and molding slowly

2907
02:16:58,650 --> 02:16:56,500
kind of you know went separate ways and

2908
02:17:04,500 --> 02:16:58,660
other people came in it just it's it

2909
02:17:07,110 --> 02:17:04,510
took a wrong turn and it just like yeah

2910
02:17:08,820 --> 02:17:07,120
this is how hard it is to do film and

2911
02:17:12,570 --> 02:17:08,830
television you know casting is

2912
02:17:14,790 --> 02:17:12,580
everything and and chemistry you can see

2913
02:17:16,830 --> 02:17:14,800
it it jumps off the screen and when you

2914
02:17:19,860 --> 02:17:16,840
don't have it it's you cannot fake that

2915
02:17:21,780 --> 02:17:19,870
sort of thing so it's it's when

2916
02:17:26,219 --> 02:17:21,790
lightning strikes we should all

2917
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:26,229
celebrate Thank You bear oh and when

2918
02:17:30,480 --> 02:17:28,090
lightning strikes is gonna also throw

2919
02:17:33,360 --> 02:17:30,490
your ham radio right out the rear window

2920
02:17:37,589 --> 02:17:33,370
of your car - when it's permanently

2921
02:17:40,799 --> 02:17:37,599
mounted I think it happened thank you

2922
02:17:42,980 --> 02:17:40,809
Mary yeah okay we won't be safe and be

2923
02:17:46,650 --> 02:17:42,990
cautious you got me thank you better

2924
02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:46,660
tell me the truth Dean did did Jillian

2925
02:17:53,190 --> 02:17:48,130
end Duchovny do they have a little

2926
02:17:55,589 --> 02:17:53,200
something-something at Comic Con in the

2927
02:17:58,709 --> 02:17:55,599
first season that a little something

2928
02:18:01,620 --> 02:17:58,719
happened but you know after you start

2929
02:18:04,650 --> 02:18:01,630
working with the same people day in day

2930
02:18:09,450 --> 02:18:04,660
out 16-hour days long hard days it

2931
02:18:11,580 --> 02:18:09,460
becomes family and and it becomes you

2932
02:18:16,950 --> 02:18:11,590
know like family you're gonna have spats

2933
02:18:19,070 --> 02:18:16,960
you're gonna be close you're going to go

2934
02:18:23,250 --> 02:18:19,080
through a whole range of emotions over

2935
02:18:25,110 --> 02:18:23,260
the 10 years so so

2936
02:18:27,509 --> 02:18:25,120
by their own admission there was there

2937
02:18:30,059 --> 02:18:27,519
was in the first season something going

2938
02:18:32,940 --> 02:18:30,069
on but that quickly quickly has subsided

2939
02:18:35,490 --> 02:18:32,950
I did you have a favorite episode by the

2940
02:18:40,469 --> 02:18:35,500
way yeah you know I always loved that

2941
02:18:43,009 --> 02:18:40,479
one the freaks in in the southern

2942
02:18:46,320 --> 02:18:43,019
Florida town the circus freaks oh yeah

2943
02:18:49,290 --> 02:18:46,330
yeah which was Jim roses magic freak

2944
02:18:52,049 --> 02:18:49,300
show circus right right right that was

2945
02:18:54,959 --> 02:18:52,059
such a fantastic show and I saw them in

2946
02:18:58,139 --> 02:18:54,969
Vancouver before they were famous doing

2947
02:19:03,059 --> 02:18:58,149
their their show at at a small bar in

2948
02:19:05,070 --> 02:19:03,069
gas town and I you know there was an act

2949
02:19:07,799 --> 02:19:05,080
I don't know do you remember seeing them

2950
02:19:11,120 --> 02:19:07,809
because they would do all the festivals

2951
02:19:16,919 --> 02:19:11,130
and stuff like that right they would do

2952
02:19:22,919 --> 02:19:21,360
Perry Farrell's Lollapalooza so you lose

2953
02:19:24,419 --> 02:19:22,929
all the time well maybe the guy that

2954
02:19:26,190 --> 02:19:24,429
could hang cinder blocks from his lips

2955
02:19:28,080 --> 02:19:26,200
yeah you know it wasn't all that sort of

2956
02:19:30,839 --> 02:19:28,090
thing yeah but there was one guy and he

2957
02:19:33,030 --> 02:19:30,849
I never saw him again and I don't know

2958
02:19:35,759 --> 02:19:33,040
if he stayed with jim rose but he would

2959
02:19:38,219 --> 02:19:35,769
stand up get offstage put a quarter in

2960
02:19:41,129 --> 02:19:38,229
the pool table and released the billiard

2961
02:19:44,339 --> 02:19:41,139
balls and then swallow eight of them on

2962
02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:44,349
stage and then asked an audience to call

2963
02:19:51,330 --> 02:19:46,090
it a number between one and eight and

2964
02:19:52,320 --> 02:19:51,340
then he would throw up that number well

2965
02:19:57,630 --> 02:19:52,330
that's magic

2966
02:19:59,700 --> 02:19:57,640
it wasn't magic he was using his ads to

2967
02:20:01,469 --> 02:19:59,710
like control the ball like I'm not sure

2968
02:20:03,360 --> 02:20:01,479
if it was a magic act because it looked

2969
02:20:05,070 --> 02:20:03,370
like he was swallowing these things and

2970
02:20:07,469 --> 02:20:05,080
there were eight of them they're like

2971
02:20:09,929 --> 02:20:07,479
huh and he was in a t-shirt so if he's

2972
02:20:11,969 --> 02:20:09,939
palming it and you know if it was magic

2973
02:20:13,980 --> 02:20:11,979
it was the most amazing magic he's

2974
02:20:15,809 --> 02:20:13,990
actually swallowing it and throwing up

2975
02:20:18,330 --> 02:20:15,819
billiard balls that's even more amazing

2976
02:20:20,429 --> 02:20:18,340
when I well when I was a kid I went to

2977
02:20:22,980 --> 02:20:20,439
the circus I'm like five years old and I

2978
02:20:24,599 --> 02:20:22,990
go into the freakshow with my brother

2979
02:20:26,670 --> 02:20:24,609
Mike and we go in to have no idea

2980
02:20:28,410 --> 02:20:26,680
you know we paid our quarter fifty cents

2981
02:20:29,969 --> 02:20:28,420
whatever it wasn't we going and I'm not

2982
02:20:31,830 --> 02:20:29,979
making this up they had this guy there

2983
02:20:35,099 --> 02:20:31,840
was a black guy his name was Popeye and

2984
02:20:36,560 --> 02:20:35,109
he walks out on stage and I'm Stan I

2985
02:20:38,680 --> 02:20:36,570
don't know what's gonna happen

2986
02:20:41,720 --> 02:20:38,690
waiting for the sword swallower you know

2987
02:20:44,870 --> 02:20:41,730
elephant boy whatever you know this guy

2988
02:20:48,740 --> 02:20:44,880
comes out and he walks out of the stage

2989
02:20:54,761 --> 02:20:48,750
and he looks right at me and he pops his

2990
02:20:58,551 --> 02:20:54,771
eyes out they popped out they came out

2991
02:21:00,350 --> 02:20:58,561
he had muscle control yeah and they air

2992
02:21:03,291 --> 02:21:00,360
pressure behind him yeah yeah yeah and

2993
02:21:09,560 --> 02:21:03,301
they popped out and he's looking at me

2994
02:21:12,261 --> 02:21:09,570
and I would I just I I freaked I ran and

2995
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:12,271
I went right out of the tent man yeah I

2996
02:21:17,150 --> 02:21:14,250
bet you're traumatized like I've never

2997
02:21:18,921 --> 02:21:17,160
forgot that guy you know it's 45 years

2998
02:21:20,780 --> 02:21:18,931
ago I still remember his name Popeye

2999
02:21:23,211 --> 02:21:20,790
well how could you forget like what else

3000
02:21:25,761 --> 02:21:23,221
would you be called you know guy with

3001
02:21:27,740 --> 02:21:25,771
who needs glasses so he was like that

3002
02:21:29,511 --> 02:21:27,750
the the popping of the eye there's that

3003
02:21:32,180 --> 02:21:29,521
other actress who could do that she did

3004
02:21:34,190 --> 02:21:32,190
like Doritos commercial or something

3005
02:21:36,320 --> 02:21:34,200
like that but she had that same skill

3006
02:21:39,770 --> 02:21:36,330
where the eyes could actually come

3007
02:21:41,330 --> 02:21:39,780
outside of the orbs just I was I worked

3008
02:21:43,220 --> 02:21:41,340
on that for years I couldn't make it

3009
02:21:45,410 --> 02:21:43,230
yeah couldn't make it happen

3010
02:21:46,881 --> 02:21:45,420
couldn't do it okay I can do a few other

3011
02:21:49,310 --> 02:21:46,891
things on my body though but that's

3012
02:21:51,860 --> 02:21:49,320
that's for another show Hey you said

3013
02:21:53,690 --> 02:21:51,870
earlier Dean he said the feds came on

3014
02:21:56,591 --> 02:21:53,700
the set and told you guys you got some

3015
02:21:59,511 --> 02:21:56,601
of it right what did you guys get right

3016
02:22:02,360 --> 02:21:59,521
well they thought some of the procedural

3017
02:22:05,631 --> 02:22:02,370
but also some of the well not on set but

3018
02:22:08,180 --> 02:22:05,641
they came to me at comedy clubs and some

3019
02:22:11,360 --> 02:22:08,190
of them thought the you know area 51 and

3020
02:22:13,430 --> 02:22:11,370
the UFO stuff some of the hidden stuff

3021
02:22:19,220 --> 02:22:13,440
particularly the way deep throat was

3022
02:22:21,020 --> 02:22:19,230
describing it was accurate so yeah yeah

3023
02:22:22,551 --> 02:22:21,030
they would say so I don't know if they

3024
02:22:24,950 --> 02:22:22,561
were pulling my leg you know and it'd be

3025
02:22:27,171 --> 02:22:24,960
like what are to these guys that sort of

3026
02:22:29,001 --> 02:22:27,181
like oh yeah no I was investigating this

3027
02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:29,011
and that and that's really that was

3028
02:22:34,640 --> 02:22:30,690
pretty accurate this episode or that

3029
02:22:36,711 --> 02:22:34,650
that thing that you know in whatever

3030
02:22:38,900 --> 02:22:36,721
episode I can't think of the specifics

3031
02:22:40,041 --> 02:22:38,910
right now you know I think I don't know

3032
02:22:44,150 --> 02:22:40,051
if you know this but I think you

3033
02:22:49,041 --> 02:22:44,160
interview deep throat in a UH the truth

3034
02:22:49,860 --> 02:22:49,051
is out there though really your game yep

3035
02:22:52,560 --> 02:22:49,870
you

3036
02:22:55,140 --> 02:22:52,570
rocky no Bobby Bobby Bobby yeah yeah

3037
02:22:57,240 --> 02:22:55,150
sorry Bobby Dean that's my suspicion I

3038
02:23:00,150 --> 02:22:57,250
don't I don't have anything on Authority

3039
02:23:02,190 --> 02:23:00,160
I have asked many people in the know you

3040
02:23:05,341 --> 02:23:02,200
know if he was but if there's something

3041
02:23:07,950 --> 02:23:05,351
about Bob Dean and I love that guy and

3042
02:23:12,270 --> 02:23:07,960
I'm jealous that you had the opportunity

3043
02:23:16,520 --> 02:23:12,280
to sit down with him but I think he's

3044
02:23:21,420 --> 02:23:16,530
deep throat well you know he was FEMA a

3045
02:23:24,180 --> 02:23:21,430
coordinator from 76 onwards for 10 years

3046
02:23:27,120 --> 02:23:24,190
and so he did have a lot of connections

3047
02:23:29,640 --> 02:23:27,130
so that's not outside the realm of

3048
02:23:31,470 --> 02:23:29,650
possibility but I thought that other guy

3049
02:23:33,420 --> 02:23:31,480
came forward recently and said he was

3050
02:23:36,450 --> 02:23:33,430
deep throat

3051
02:23:41,341 --> 02:23:36,460
he sort of admitted it in the news yes

3052
02:23:42,630 --> 02:23:41,351
but that seemed to - Pat didn't it 30

3053
02:23:45,030 --> 02:23:42,640
when - oh yeah I'm deep throat and

3054
02:23:47,970 --> 02:23:45,040
everybody goes oh ok problem selves yeah

3055
02:23:49,650 --> 02:23:47,980
I think it's Bob Dean well it could be

3056
02:23:52,530 --> 02:23:49,660
you know he was quite an amazing

3057
02:23:54,810 --> 02:23:52,540
interview and you know it's one thing to

3058
02:23:58,410 --> 02:23:54,820
watch it on on YouTube and just see it

3059
02:24:01,320 --> 02:23:58,420
but if you go to our website you can buy

3060
02:24:05,670 --> 02:24:01,330
the two-disc set which has extended all

3061
02:24:07,770 --> 02:24:05,680
the interviews in their entirety and the

3062
02:24:10,410 --> 02:24:07,780
one with Bob Dean is actually kind of

3063
02:24:12,810 --> 02:24:10,420
remarkable because it goes into from the

3064
02:24:15,720 --> 02:24:12,820
darkest of conspiracies - he was kind of

3065
02:24:18,710 --> 02:24:15,730
a spiritual guy mm-hmm and and really

3066
02:24:22,290 --> 02:24:18,720
sort of connects the both the the

3067
02:24:25,350 --> 02:24:22,300
spiritual aspect and the the cover-up

3068
02:24:27,570 --> 02:24:25,360
aspect in sort of almost one sentence

3069
02:24:31,140 --> 02:24:27,580
which is really amazing who is your

3070
02:24:34,470 --> 02:24:31,150
favorite interview and when you look

3071
02:24:36,930 --> 02:24:34,480
back well you know we often say like who

3072
02:24:39,470 --> 02:24:36,940
you know everybody had their own story

3073
02:24:42,930 --> 02:24:39,480
and some were really fun and you know

3074
02:24:45,030 --> 02:24:42,940
but to me the one who I would trust my

3075
02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:45,040
dogs with if I needed a dog sitter or

3076
02:24:50,730 --> 02:24:48,010
something would be Cynthia Crawford who

3077
02:24:54,051 --> 02:24:50,740
is the alien-human hybrid who made these

3078
02:24:59,600 --> 02:24:54,061
sculptures of aliens from your dreams

3079
02:25:02,310 --> 02:24:59,610
she was she was precious not she was I

3080
02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:02,320
gotta stop you right there

3081
02:25:06,330 --> 02:25:04,810
when when you stepped up did you have

3082
02:25:08,850 --> 02:25:06,340
any idea who she was

3083
02:25:11,100 --> 02:25:08,860
none at all you didn't did you because

3084
02:25:13,860 --> 02:25:11,110
it my first meeting with her and that

3085
02:25:17,030 --> 02:25:13,870
was the first take yes I could tell I

3086
02:25:21,960 --> 02:25:17,040
just had to hear that from you okay now

3087
02:25:24,360 --> 02:25:21,970
how because she went right there oh yeah

3088
02:25:25,770 --> 02:25:24,370
she's my way around and play around the

3089
02:25:27,330 --> 02:25:25,780
first thing out of her mouth is the

3090
02:25:30,420 --> 02:25:27,340
first thing you need to know about me is

3091
02:25:33,720 --> 02:25:30,430
I'm an alien-human hybrid I'm a human

3092
02:25:36,570 --> 02:25:33,730
hybrid like what were you thinking I go

3093
02:25:38,850 --> 02:25:36,580
very good this will be fascinating to

3094
02:25:41,730 --> 02:25:38,860
talk to you then because you would have

3095
02:25:47,190 --> 02:25:41,740
information maybe a just a plain human

3096
02:25:49,320 --> 02:25:47,200
would not have and it it almost could

3097
02:25:52,440 --> 02:25:49,330
have gotten out of control well and this

3098
02:25:54,600 --> 02:25:52,450
is sort of the the the crux of the

3099
02:25:57,330 --> 02:25:54,610
documentary you know we would get

3100
02:26:00,000 --> 02:25:57,340
criticisms of why do you allow these

3101
02:26:03,660 --> 02:26:00,010
wingnuts and I put air quotes around

3102
02:26:04,680 --> 02:26:03,670
that the time of day to spout whatever

3103
02:26:06,600 --> 02:26:04,690
the hell they're saying in your

3104
02:26:09,540 --> 02:26:06,610
documentary you know are you taking this

3105
02:26:11,450 --> 02:26:09,550
seriously or aren't you and to us it's

3106
02:26:15,511 --> 02:26:11,460
you know by

3107
02:26:17,940 --> 02:26:15,521
cataloguing people whose point of view

3108
02:26:20,960 --> 02:26:17,950
or worldview you don't agree with or

3109
02:26:23,370 --> 02:26:20,970
can't agree with or are dismissive of

3110
02:26:24,810 --> 02:26:23,380
then you're also losing valuable

3111
02:26:26,400 --> 02:26:24,820
information they may have you're

3112
02:26:31,740 --> 02:26:26,410
throwing the baby out with the bathwater

3113
02:26:34,530 --> 02:26:31,750
and so by just allowing Cynthia to tell

3114
02:26:38,790 --> 02:26:34,540
her story she actually had a very

3115
02:26:42,330 --> 02:26:38,800
fantastic message that you know she has

3116
02:26:46,950 --> 02:26:42,340
her story but her message is universal

3117
02:26:49,740 --> 02:26:46,960
and if you can get past which I hope you

3118
02:26:51,810 --> 02:26:49,750
know many people can you will be

3119
02:26:53,190 --> 02:26:51,820
enlightened and you don't have to put up

3120
02:26:55,740 --> 02:26:53,200
a guard up oh my god

3121
02:26:57,780 --> 02:26:55,750
alien human hybrid what a wingnut have

3122
02:27:00,060 --> 02:26:57,790
you seen her since you guys shot the

3123
02:27:03,060 --> 02:27:00,070
documentary yeah we said I ran into her

3124
02:27:07,530 --> 02:27:03,070
at a another convention down in Long

3125
02:27:10,230 --> 02:27:07,540
Beach a couple of years ago and since

3126
02:27:16,051 --> 02:27:10,240
the document her work is taking off she

3127
02:27:21,240 --> 02:27:19,261
the fair like envisioning work so people

3128
02:27:22,881 --> 02:27:21,250
are coming to her and she's making a lot

3129
02:27:27,060 --> 02:27:22,891
of sculptures that are helping people

3130
02:27:30,780 --> 02:27:27,070
through all sorts of transitions as she

3131
02:27:32,461 --> 02:27:30,790
says she's a very talented artist too as

3132
02:27:36,421 --> 02:27:32,471
well I mean she's just but she's real

3133
02:27:38,461 --> 02:27:36,431
cool and knowledgeable to I mean you

3134
02:27:41,790 --> 02:27:38,471
know from your Pleiadians to your

3135
02:27:44,790 --> 02:27:41,800
Reticulans and your your grace she has

3136
02:27:47,091 --> 02:27:44,800
it all catalogued and off the top of her

3137
02:27:51,450 --> 02:27:47,101
head she knows like all the different

3138
02:27:54,150 --> 02:27:51,460
with sub matter of alien that takes

3139
02:27:56,100 --> 02:27:54,160
years of research normally now I'm gonna

3140
02:27:58,400 --> 02:27:56,110
I'm gonna force you I'm having a good

3141
02:28:00,001 --> 02:27:58,410
time so I watch I want you to hang on

3142
02:28:01,410 --> 02:28:00,011
after the break

3143
02:28:03,751 --> 02:28:01,420
I want to ask you about a couple of

3144
02:28:04,830 --> 02:28:03,761
other interviews can you hang with us

3145
02:28:07,230 --> 02:28:04,840
for another 10 minutes

3146
02:28:09,390 --> 02:28:07,240
[\h__\h] all right Dean thank you so much

3147
02:28:11,730 --> 02:28:09,400
and when I come back you know I've got

3148
02:28:14,640 --> 02:28:11,740
to ask you about one of my heroes Jordan

3149
02:28:16,860 --> 02:28:14,650
Maxwell yeah and you two guys really hit

3150
02:28:18,390 --> 02:28:16,870
it off so I want to talk about that when

3151
02:28:19,490 --> 02:28:18,400
we come back after the break this is

3152
02:28:22,950 --> 02:28:19,500
fade to black

3153
02:28:25,440 --> 02:28:22,960
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3154
02:28:28,591 --> 02:28:25,450
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3155
02:28:30,600 --> 02:28:28,601
our meals to mature tonight Dean Haglund

3156
02:28:32,120 --> 02:28:30,610
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3157
02:28:50,830 --> 02:28:32,130
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3158
02:28:56,850 --> 02:28:52,911
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3185
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3186
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3187
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3188
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3197
02:31:03,190 --> 02:31:01,090
welcome back fade to black this spoke

3198
02:31:06,730 --> 02:31:03,200
radio for the masses

3199
02:31:09,640 --> 02:31:06,740
I'm your host Jimmy church tonight Dean

3200
02:31:11,051 --> 02:31:09,650
Haglund is with us Thank You Dean for

3201
02:31:13,301 --> 02:31:11,061
hanging late man thank you

3202
02:31:18,100 --> 02:31:13,311
hey no problem man I'm deaf bugs are

3203
02:31:19,990 --> 02:31:18,110
giving me a look but yeah right let's uh

3204
02:31:24,070 --> 02:31:20,000
let's talk about Jordan Maxwell for a

3205
02:31:26,350 --> 02:31:24,080
second he you know with in our little

3206
02:31:27,820 --> 02:31:26,360
family here I mean he's he's one of the

3207
02:31:30,671 --> 02:31:27,830
he's one of the guys that we holed up

3208
02:31:33,190 --> 02:31:30,681
and and we hold you know in such high

3209
02:31:35,530 --> 02:31:33,200
regard I said at the end you guys really

3210
02:31:39,341 --> 02:31:35,540
hit it off and and he's always mr.

3211
02:31:42,430 --> 02:31:39,351
serious guy and with you he you know it

3212
02:31:44,830 --> 02:31:42,440
seemed like he he dropped his guard down

3213
02:31:47,921 --> 02:31:44,840
a little bit could you feel that and I

3214
02:31:50,410 --> 02:31:47,931
solutely and you know this is a part of

3215
02:31:52,930 --> 02:31:50,420
the thing that was great about the

3216
02:31:54,730 --> 02:31:52,940
documentary is that one we came in you

3217
02:31:56,770 --> 02:31:54,740
know everybody has their guard up and

3218
02:32:00,131 --> 02:31:56,780
they're like ready to tell their story

3219
02:32:02,020 --> 02:32:00,141
but then as the more we talk then they

3220
02:32:04,060 --> 02:32:02,030
realize you know we get better

3221
02:32:06,131 --> 02:32:04,070
interviews because more of their

3222
02:32:09,220 --> 02:32:06,141
personality would come through sure and

3223
02:32:12,820 --> 02:32:09,230
and certain and I actually had had lunch

3224
02:32:14,530 --> 02:32:12,830
a couple of times while it was on the

3225
02:32:18,150 --> 02:32:14,540
x-files he was one of the first that I

3226
02:32:21,970 --> 02:32:18,160
would the writers knew him and so

3227
02:32:25,120 --> 02:32:21,980
introduced us as as a great research

3228
02:32:28,750 --> 02:32:25,130
person and of course his breadth of

3229
02:32:30,610 --> 02:32:28,760
knowledge is incredible and also you

3230
02:32:33,671 --> 02:32:30,620
know he's connected to Hollywood is kind

3231
02:32:39,990 --> 02:32:33,681
of neat his first wife was secretary

3232
02:32:45,520 --> 02:32:40,000
John factor who was one of the

3233
02:32:47,860 --> 02:32:45,530
lieutenant's of Bugsy Siegel and and

3234
02:32:51,940 --> 02:32:47,870
then came to Hollywood with his brother

3235
02:32:54,160 --> 02:32:51,950
who used to do the bodies for funerals

3236
02:32:55,360 --> 02:32:54,170
and so when he can Hollywood his brother

3237
02:32:56,740 --> 02:32:55,370
said well what should i do well you

3238
02:32:58,240 --> 02:32:56,750
could have makeup wear you do makeup for

3239
02:33:01,600 --> 02:32:58,250
the stars and that brother was Max

3240
02:33:05,140 --> 02:33:01,610
Factor yep he's not a great story so he

3241
02:33:09,040 --> 02:33:05,150
knew max thanks to Max Factor back the

3242
02:33:10,841 --> 02:33:09,050
day so yeah he's is his knowledge is

3243
02:33:14,680 --> 02:33:10,851
incredible and he's always hinted that

3244
02:33:16,930 --> 02:33:14,690
he's been working on something that he's

3245
02:33:19,180 --> 02:33:16,940
going to release on video and

3246
02:33:20,860 --> 02:33:19,190
I have always maintained that I wanted

3247
02:33:22,810 --> 02:33:20,870
to be the one to talk to him about it

3248
02:33:25,211 --> 02:33:22,820
did to do it on camera and we would

3249
02:33:28,390 --> 02:33:25,221
shoot the whole thing and he's agreed in

3250
02:33:30,761 --> 02:33:28,400
principle but you know get even finding

3251
02:33:34,990 --> 02:33:30,771
the time and sitting down with him is

3252
02:33:37,921 --> 02:33:35,000
always the trick and how do you in

3253
02:33:40,511 --> 02:33:37,931
talking to him like I said so candidly

3254
02:33:44,680 --> 02:33:40,521
and his breadth of knowledge is just

3255
02:33:46,990 --> 02:33:44,690
it's stupid it's sick I mean how do you

3256
02:33:50,411 --> 02:33:47,000
feel about the way that he comes across

3257
02:33:51,761 --> 02:33:50,421
though in that I mean some of it gets a

3258
02:33:54,761 --> 02:33:51,771
little bit far out

3259
02:33:56,860 --> 02:33:54,771
oh but yet you know he knows what he

3260
02:34:00,791 --> 02:33:56,870
knows you know there's that aspect too

3261
02:34:03,551 --> 02:34:00,801
yeah you know he knows my stand-up

3262
02:34:06,251 --> 02:34:03,561
comedy and stuff like that so so he you

3263
02:34:08,051 --> 02:34:06,261
know as you said he's joking with me and

3264
02:34:11,560 --> 02:34:08,061
stuff like that but then when we start

3265
02:34:14,350 --> 02:34:11,570
getting into the seriousness of it he

3266
02:34:16,661 --> 02:34:14,360
also is lenient enough to allow me to

3267
02:34:19,270 --> 02:34:16,671
throw in some some gags here and there

3268
02:34:23,560 --> 02:34:19,280
and and yet at the same time that

3269
02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:23,570
information so compelling he he's one of

3270
02:34:28,810 --> 02:34:26,210
the ones that you know that will lay out

3271
02:34:30,581 --> 02:34:28,820
information and then listen to the

3272
02:34:33,430 --> 02:34:30,591
question so if you're listening to what

3273
02:34:37,511 --> 02:34:33,440
he's saying the questions that you ask

3274
02:34:39,520 --> 02:34:37,521
are naturally flowing into where the

3275
02:34:42,400 --> 02:34:39,530
next part of his thought process is

3276
02:34:43,961 --> 02:34:42,410
going so talking to him is actually

3277
02:34:46,121 --> 02:34:43,971
interviewing him as of one of the

3278
02:34:51,791 --> 02:34:46,131
easiest things in the world now I have

3279
02:34:53,801 --> 02:34:51,801
to ask you about David's errata yes you

3280
02:34:57,480 --> 02:34:53,811
guys are friends yes absolutely

3281
02:35:03,490 --> 02:34:57,490
very like very cool guy so cool

3282
02:35:08,140 --> 02:35:03,500
tell me about him go back he was friends

3283
02:35:11,881 --> 02:35:08,150
with Peter Aykroyd of course who is also

3284
02:35:14,470 --> 02:35:11,891
big he has a Peter Aykroyd has a lot of

3285
02:35:17,940 --> 02:35:14,480
classified UFO footage somehow he's a

3286
02:35:20,470 --> 02:35:17,950
collector of that stuff and David and I

3287
02:35:22,661 --> 02:35:20,480
lived in close proximity to each other

3288
02:35:25,631 --> 02:35:22,671
for a while so we'd often hang out and

3289
02:35:28,360 --> 02:35:25,641
talk and stuff and work on a lot of

3290
02:35:30,880 --> 02:35:28,370
projects you know he did a lot of

3291
02:35:35,490 --> 02:35:30,890
of his own documentaries that he sells

3292
02:35:38,350 --> 02:35:35,500
on his website and so when we asked them

3293
02:35:40,360 --> 02:35:38,360
that was at the Laughlin UFO conference

3294
02:35:42,190 --> 02:35:40,370
that we're talking and we said hey dude

3295
02:35:43,990 --> 02:35:42,200
can you know just come on interview well

3296
02:35:45,970 --> 02:35:44,000
just you know cuz what do you want to

3297
02:35:48,250 --> 02:35:45,980
talk about it go what we always talk

3298
02:35:49,810 --> 02:35:48,260
about you know we just we have ideas and

3299
02:35:54,040 --> 02:35:49,820
we go off on tangents and stuff like

3300
02:35:56,320 --> 02:35:54,050
that so he's talking about my favorite

3301
02:35:59,051 --> 02:35:56,330
thing is like oh yeah I want it to have

3302
02:36:01,120 --> 02:35:59,061
a faster-than-light ship that I could

3303
02:36:02,320 --> 02:36:01,130
just escape all but this and then I said

3304
02:36:04,301 --> 02:36:02,330
well when the authorities have the same

3305
02:36:08,290 --> 02:36:04,311
thing because oh yeah right scratch that

3306
02:36:10,720 --> 02:36:08,300
idea just like oh yeah that's a

3307
02:36:13,270 --> 02:36:10,730
completely silly idea like there's a

3308
02:36:16,060 --> 02:36:13,280
tangent that even he realizes is

3309
02:36:17,801 --> 02:36:16,070
ridiculous it will pull back from so you

3310
02:36:19,690 --> 02:36:17,811
know having that kind of flexibility and

3311
02:36:22,120 --> 02:36:19,700
not taking himself that seriously I

3312
02:36:25,900 --> 02:36:22,130
think is what it really has his greatest

3313
02:36:28,780 --> 02:36:25,910
strengths as a researcher I watched from

3314
02:36:32,950 --> 02:36:28,790
here to Andromeda last night for maybe

3315
02:36:37,470 --> 02:36:32,960
the third time right and that

3316
02:36:40,690 --> 02:36:37,480
documentary the way that it starts off I

3317
02:36:43,600 --> 02:36:40,700
want to say this correctly its pacing

3318
02:36:47,020 --> 02:36:43,610
was a little strange I'll say that that

3319
02:36:51,551 --> 02:36:47,030
that that documentary is excellent yeah

3320
02:36:54,820 --> 02:36:51,561
is frigging bleeping excellent yeah and

3321
02:36:56,170 --> 02:36:54,830
so informative if you get past you got

3322
02:36:58,930 --> 02:36:56,180
it you know you got to get past that

3323
02:37:05,370 --> 02:36:58,940
first five minutes and it's just a

3324
02:37:11,080 --> 02:37:07,690
he's coaching it and that sort of thing

3325
02:37:12,910 --> 02:37:11,090
right right totally couching it yeah but

3326
02:37:15,490 --> 02:37:12,920
what you get that is an excellent

3327
02:37:18,430 --> 02:37:15,500
documentary now was that was that done

3328
02:37:22,240 --> 02:37:18,440
before the truth is out there which came

3329
02:37:25,180 --> 02:37:22,250
first ah gee I think he was already

3330
02:37:26,110 --> 02:37:25,190
working on that while he did that

3331
02:37:28,240 --> 02:37:26,120
interview with us

3332
02:37:31,301 --> 02:37:28,250
but I know he finished it because he

3333
02:37:33,610 --> 02:37:31,311
moved to Sedona for a while he was out

3334
02:37:36,460 --> 02:37:33,620
there and I believe that's where he

3335
02:37:39,070 --> 02:37:36,470
finished that documentary once he was

3336
02:37:41,950 --> 02:37:39,080
there if I'm not mistaken I'd have to

3337
02:37:43,750 --> 02:37:41,960
think about that timeline again but

3338
02:37:45,610 --> 02:37:43,760
he had been working on that for a while

3339
02:37:50,950 --> 02:37:45,620
and gathering a lot of that information

3340
02:37:55,060 --> 02:37:50,960
and you know he even gave me a CD of the

3341
02:37:58,090 --> 02:37:55,070
sound of the Sun that was taken from a

3342
02:37:59,440 --> 02:37:58,100
satellite that you play in you put a

3343
02:38:01,990 --> 02:37:59,450
picture of water in front of a speaker

3344
02:38:05,530 --> 02:38:02,000
and you play the CD right and then your

3345
02:38:07,719 --> 02:38:05,540
water is infused with vitamin D yeah I

3346
02:38:10,510 --> 02:38:07,729
remember that whole thing yeah yeah yeah

3347
02:38:14,890 --> 02:38:10,520
and so I've been doing that edge fair

3348
02:38:16,600 --> 02:38:14,900
enough you know I'm fairly fair hair

3349
02:38:19,060 --> 02:38:16,610
didn't and light skin I don't go out in

3350
02:38:21,250 --> 02:38:19,070
the Sun much and yet when I go for my

3351
02:38:25,630 --> 02:38:21,260
checkups my my vitamin D counts through

3352
02:38:29,560 --> 02:38:25,640
the roof seriously yeah because it

3353
02:38:31,060 --> 02:38:29,570
actually has an effect with a one last

3354
02:38:33,640 --> 02:38:31,070
question about the truth is out there

3355
02:38:36,730 --> 02:38:33,650
out of the entire cast of characters now

3356
02:38:39,430 --> 02:38:36,740
I've got my guy who who I'm gonna

3357
02:38:43,810 --> 02:38:39,440
suggest out of the entire cast of

3358
02:38:45,880 --> 02:38:43,820
characters who is the strangest the

3359
02:38:49,630 --> 02:38:45,890
strangest yeah there's one there's one

3360
02:38:54,130 --> 02:38:49,640
that stands out for you what does for

3361
02:38:58,180 --> 02:38:54,140
you - well you know what I'm not gonna

3362
02:39:01,420 --> 02:38:58,190
say that cuz you know what strangest is

3363
02:39:03,640 --> 02:39:01,430
the wrong even though it is it is

3364
02:39:06,820 --> 02:39:03,650
implying the right thing you know the

3365
02:39:08,680 --> 02:39:06,830
most the one that was the most free you

3366
02:39:10,360 --> 02:39:08,690
know the most wack when you look back in

3367
02:39:12,820 --> 02:39:10,370
youth in you and you're thinking about

3368
02:39:15,520 --> 02:39:12,830
that document there's one one

3369
02:39:17,620 --> 02:39:15,530
conversation one standout character is

3370
02:39:19,600 --> 02:39:17,630
what I should say who is that for you in

3371
02:39:23,770 --> 02:39:19,610
the in the in the in the movie well

3372
02:39:25,270 --> 02:39:23,780
maybe Peter the harpist yep very well

3373
02:39:27,250 --> 02:39:25,280
and that was interesting because we were

3374
02:39:30,490 --> 02:39:27,260
filming other people and he said you

3375
02:39:32,680 --> 02:39:30,500
really need to talk to me and this was

3376
02:39:35,260 --> 02:39:32,690
exactly how we wanted our documentary to

3377
02:39:37,870 --> 02:39:35,270
be that that as this journey continued

3378
02:39:41,410 --> 02:39:37,880
around the world that people would come

3379
02:39:44,200 --> 02:39:41,420
to us and so you know we said oh

3380
02:39:46,150 --> 02:39:44,210
absolutely you are correct we really

3381
02:39:48,940 --> 02:39:46,160
need to talk to you and so he sat down

3382
02:39:50,770 --> 02:39:48,950
and told this incredible story of you

3383
02:39:52,780 --> 02:39:50,780
know picking up the harp and having a

3384
02:39:53,680 --> 02:39:52,790
Hiawatha experience and all that sort of

3385
02:39:56,801 --> 02:39:53,690
thing

3386
02:39:59,501 --> 02:39:56,811
sure enough that interconnects to so

3387
02:40:02,860 --> 02:39:59,511
many other interviews that we had that

3388
02:40:06,011 --> 02:40:02,870
he sort of is the embodiment of a

3389
02:40:09,551 --> 02:40:06,021
universal consciousness as as whack that

3390
02:40:12,430 --> 02:40:09,561
is out of place as it seems he was so

3391
02:40:13,990 --> 02:40:12,440
necessary for that documentary that we

3392
02:40:15,850 --> 02:40:14,000
really appreciate him being a part of it

3393
02:40:20,440 --> 02:40:15,860
I mean you know what he straight-faced

3394
02:40:24,341 --> 02:40:20,450
III he is he is impassioned about it and

3395
02:40:28,121 --> 02:40:24,351
his harp sale CDs apparently sell around

3396
02:40:31,570 --> 02:40:28,131
the world very well that that I knew

3397
02:40:33,131 --> 02:40:31,580
that I knew that you were gonna pick

3398
02:40:35,350 --> 02:40:33,141
sterling out out of that out of the

3399
02:40:38,530 --> 02:40:35,360
entire crew and and the reason for that

3400
02:40:41,320 --> 02:40:38,540
and and and I really mean this his his

3401
02:40:44,560 --> 02:40:41,330
his character and his emotion and

3402
02:40:47,020 --> 02:40:44,570
everything else comes out so strong yeah

3403
02:40:49,390 --> 02:40:47,030
and and you're sitting there and now he

3404
02:40:52,631 --> 02:40:49,400
starts off with the conversation and

3405
02:40:54,520 --> 02:40:52,641
it's going and it's going and and it's

3406
02:40:56,740 --> 02:40:54,530
getting more what's the word I want to

3407
02:40:58,900 --> 02:40:56,750
use fantastical is that the right yeah

3408
02:41:01,121 --> 02:40:58,910
that's good yeah and you're right there

3409
02:41:03,341 --> 02:41:01,131
and you're and you're going with it and

3410
02:41:06,551 --> 02:41:03,351
and like I said he's straight and he's

3411
02:41:08,440 --> 02:41:06,561
straight facing he has he's right there

3412
02:41:10,331 --> 02:41:08,450
and I don't think he was putting this on

3413
02:41:13,091 --> 02:41:10,341
because no I don't think so either no I

3414
02:41:17,051 --> 02:41:13,101
don't think anybody else would yeah and

3415
02:41:19,091 --> 02:41:17,061
and that him also this was an improbable

3416
02:41:21,700 --> 02:41:19,101
journey because he himself couldn't

3417
02:41:24,400 --> 02:41:21,710
believe that this was happening to him

3418
02:41:26,350 --> 02:41:24,410
that he you know that somebody told him

3419
02:41:29,291 --> 02:41:26,360
the harp is gonna change the world and

3420
02:41:30,461 --> 02:41:29,301
he had no ability to play the harp never

3421
02:41:32,890 --> 02:41:30,471
even heard of it and then a week later

3422
02:41:36,390 --> 02:41:32,900
somebody gives him a harp and then from

3423
02:41:41,200 --> 02:41:36,400
there all of this his world turns around

3424
02:41:43,240 --> 02:41:41,210
you know he is both impassioned and also

3425
02:41:44,950 --> 02:41:43,250
very surprised at the journey that his

3426
02:41:47,261 --> 02:41:44,960
life has suddenly taken it's one of the

3427
02:41:48,791 --> 02:41:47,271
best parts of the movie now thank you

3428
02:41:50,140 --> 02:41:48,801
one of the one of the best parts and I'm

3429
02:41:53,381 --> 02:41:50,150
glad that you and I were on the same

3430
02:41:55,751 --> 02:41:53,391
wavelength on that now and we're doing a

3431
02:41:57,490 --> 02:41:55,761
sequel to that documentary by the way

3432
02:41:59,650 --> 02:41:57,500
because we have hundreds of hours of

3433
02:42:02,680 --> 02:41:59,660
footage and so now we're going to delve

3434
02:42:05,020 --> 02:42:02,690
into like Jordan Maxwell has a longer

3435
02:42:07,421 --> 02:42:05,030
timeline of these conspiracies so we're

3436
02:42:10,291 --> 02:42:07,431
gonna go farther back in history

3437
02:42:14,200 --> 02:42:10,301
and you know not quite ancient aliens

3438
02:42:15,970 --> 02:42:14,210
breathless wonder but in terms of you

3439
02:42:18,520 --> 02:42:15,980
know like you know a lot of people think

3440
02:42:21,070 --> 02:42:18,530
the the government conspiracies are only

3441
02:42:24,581 --> 02:42:21,080
in the last fifty or seventy years but

3442
02:42:26,560 --> 02:42:24,591
we have you know some evidence and a lot

3443
02:42:29,680 --> 02:42:26,570
of the interviews seem to indicate that

3444
02:42:32,171 --> 02:42:29,690
it's much much longer you know hundreds

3445
02:42:32,621 --> 02:42:32,181
of years and deaths it's a years in the

3446
02:42:33,761 --> 02:42:32,631
making

3447
02:42:37,650 --> 02:42:33,771
are you going to go back and revisit

3448
02:42:41,501 --> 02:42:37,660
some of the some of the cast from the

3449
02:42:44,230 --> 02:42:41,511
from part one I we think so yeah and

3450
02:42:46,150 --> 02:42:44,240
there's gonna be new ones as well and

3451
02:42:48,940 --> 02:42:46,160
yeah it some of that we have already

3452
02:42:51,551 --> 02:42:48,950
that footage now just you know could not

3453
02:42:53,051 --> 02:42:51,561
be included in the presentation so we're

3454
02:42:55,900 --> 02:42:53,061
going to use a lot of that footage and

3455
02:42:57,700 --> 02:42:55,910
add new footage when we start shooting

3456
02:42:59,470 --> 02:42:57,710
next month when are you gonna look to

3457
02:43:04,751 --> 02:42:59,480
release this so this is this is exciting

3458
02:43:08,020 --> 02:43:04,761
news you didn't tell me about well it's

3459
02:43:09,850 --> 02:43:08,030
probably gonna be we think maybe a year

3460
02:43:12,551 --> 02:43:09,860
and a half our investors are have lined

3461
02:43:16,091 --> 02:43:12,561
up so we have our money in place it's

3462
02:43:18,581 --> 02:43:16,101
now a scheduling and some of it was

3463
02:43:22,631 --> 02:43:18,591
gonna take us back to the Middle East

3464
02:43:24,520 --> 02:43:22,641
but we're just waiting for little holes

3465
02:43:28,831 --> 02:43:24,530
in the conflict in order to go there

3466
02:43:32,770 --> 02:43:28,841
safely and have it before a lot of its

3467
02:43:34,930 --> 02:43:32,780
torn asunder I had said at the very

3468
02:43:37,780 --> 02:43:34,940
onset of our conversation tonight you

3469
02:43:39,371 --> 02:43:37,790
know you have you know you didn't

3470
02:43:41,890 --> 02:43:39,381
volunteer for this but you know you're

3471
02:43:44,081 --> 02:43:41,900
like the UFO guy now and as you know as

3472
02:43:46,990 --> 02:43:44,091
you go out and and you go to these

3473
02:43:50,171 --> 02:43:47,000
conventions and your email is there and

3474
02:43:51,671 --> 02:43:50,181
comic-con and and everything else do you

3475
02:43:54,251 --> 02:43:51,681
have people coming up to you talking

3476
02:43:56,831 --> 02:43:54,261
about them being contactees and they

3477
02:43:59,020 --> 02:43:56,841
need to talk to you and they've seen

3478
02:44:01,871 --> 02:43:59,030
this and and you know because you're

3479
02:44:04,660 --> 02:44:01,881
that guy yeah absolutely and and you

3480
02:44:06,970 --> 02:44:04,670
know a lot of them just need to have

3481
02:44:08,801 --> 02:44:06,980
someone hear that story and not do

3482
02:44:12,461 --> 02:44:08,811
anything about it and not be you know

3483
02:44:14,470 --> 02:44:12,471
ridiculed or feel ashamed about it or

3484
02:44:15,671 --> 02:44:14,480
anything like that so so yeah that a lot

3485
02:44:17,560 --> 02:44:15,681
of people come up and do tell me those

3486
02:44:21,600 --> 02:44:17,570
stories and you know there's a lot of

3487
02:44:24,841 --> 02:44:21,610
similarities to these stories and as

3488
02:44:29,230 --> 02:44:24,851
Roger dr. Roger Leir said you know

3489
02:44:31,660 --> 02:44:29,240
45,000 people have been all have been

3490
02:44:33,910 --> 02:44:31,670
abductee story that is remarkably

3491
02:44:38,190 --> 02:44:33,920
similar and to think that that is

3492
02:44:40,600 --> 02:44:38,200
collusion amongst 45,000 people is

3493
02:44:42,850 --> 02:44:40,610
impossible so there must be something

3494
02:44:44,860 --> 02:44:42,860
else going on do you find a common

3495
02:44:46,180 --> 02:44:44,870
thread now that you've done all of these

3496
02:44:47,860 --> 02:44:46,190
interviews you've got the documentary

3497
02:44:50,730 --> 02:44:47,870
and and you've been doing this for a

3498
02:44:54,190 --> 02:44:50,740
while do you find a common thread to

3499
02:44:56,950 --> 02:44:54,200
these these events and when when

3500
02:44:58,890 --> 02:44:56,960
somebody tells you a story do you can

3501
02:45:03,640 --> 02:44:58,900
you connect a common thread between

3502
02:45:05,980 --> 02:45:03,650
everybody else yeah come and thread in

3503
02:45:08,560 --> 02:45:05,990
terms of events and yeah there's always

3504
02:45:10,631 --> 02:45:08,570
certain things that pop off and you know

3505
02:45:12,360 --> 02:45:10,641
that yeah buddy you know there's there's

3506
02:45:15,310 --> 02:45:12,370
certain things that only you know

3507
02:45:16,511 --> 02:45:15,320
because you have interviewed so many

3508
02:45:19,480 --> 02:45:16,521
people have had so many different

3509
02:45:24,430 --> 02:45:19,490
conversations right there's lapses in

3510
02:45:27,341 --> 02:45:24,440
memory there's weird night dreams you

3511
02:45:29,381 --> 02:45:27,351
know there's there's certain personal

3512
02:45:32,440 --> 02:45:29,391
aspects that reverberate afterwards

3513
02:45:35,350 --> 02:45:32,450
there's these echoes that after whatever

3514
02:45:38,171 --> 02:45:35,360
experience they have sort of keep coming

3515
02:45:41,710 --> 02:45:38,181
up in their personal life so yeah that

3516
02:45:43,870 --> 02:45:41,720
you could sort of see also you know

3517
02:45:46,091 --> 02:45:43,880
there's there's other theories now too

3518
02:45:48,070 --> 02:45:46,101
that I really like for instance there's

3519
02:45:51,160 --> 02:45:48,080
a lot of sightings down in Mexico and

3520
02:45:53,051 --> 02:45:51,170
Central America and the belief is that

3521
02:45:56,290 --> 02:45:53,061
because of our free trade agreement

3522
02:45:59,080 --> 02:45:56,300
we're now these are things that being

3523
02:46:02,220 --> 02:45:59,090
manufactured in top secret bases so

3524
02:46:04,990 --> 02:46:02,230
they're actually our very own military

3525
02:46:06,190 --> 02:46:05,000
vehicles but it's cheaper to built them

3526
02:46:07,600 --> 02:46:06,200
down there so that's why there's more

3527
02:46:10,450 --> 02:46:07,610
sightings because they're testing them

3528
02:46:15,370 --> 02:46:10,460
down there what what makes you do this

3529
02:46:20,020 --> 02:46:15,380
is there something is it is it some deep

3530
02:46:22,930 --> 02:46:20,030
here is it something deep you know what

3531
02:46:25,480 --> 02:46:22,940
it's really fun it it's allowed me to

3532
02:46:28,960 --> 02:46:25,490
travel the world and meet a whole bunch

3533
02:46:31,390 --> 02:46:28,970
of people talk to people like you you

3534
02:46:33,430 --> 02:46:31,400
know it's been just a rewarding

3535
02:46:34,990 --> 02:46:33,440
experience to go through life with open

3536
02:46:37,300 --> 02:46:35,000
arms and say yes to

3537
02:46:39,820 --> 02:46:37,310
everything and and see where it takes

3538
02:46:41,920 --> 02:46:39,830
you and it's taken me on an amazing

3539
02:46:45,250 --> 02:46:41,930
journey that still continues is it

3540
02:46:47,140 --> 02:46:45,260
something that you need to have fed you

3541
02:46:51,040 --> 02:46:47,150
know is it is it something inside you

3542
02:46:55,090 --> 02:46:51,050
that causes this as is it a need you

3543
02:46:57,460 --> 02:46:55,100
know is it something seeded or are we

3544
02:47:00,900 --> 02:46:57,470
going with the flow I think it's more of

3545
02:47:04,240 --> 02:47:00,910
going with the flow a bubbly joy of

3546
02:47:06,820 --> 02:47:04,250
sailing down a river that you know

3547
02:47:09,210 --> 02:47:06,830
however the current takes me I just as

3548
02:47:12,790 --> 02:47:09,220
easily could have been on a show about

3549
02:47:15,490 --> 02:47:12,800
NASCAR at races and it would have been

3550
02:47:19,690 --> 02:47:15,500
the spokesman down at Indy 500 you know

3551
02:47:22,290 --> 02:47:19,700
so so I it those those is just the way

3552
02:47:25,300 --> 02:47:22,300
the cards that are dealt and how fate

3553
02:47:28,420 --> 02:47:25,310
flies its merry kite so what are you

3554
02:47:30,550 --> 02:47:28,430
doing next and well let's let's let's

3555
02:47:32,350 --> 02:47:30,560
start to end there what do you doing

3556
02:47:34,810 --> 02:47:32,360
next what's what's on there what's on

3557
02:47:37,420 --> 02:47:34,820
the horizon well as I said the sequel to

3558
02:47:39,790 --> 02:47:37,430
the to the truth is out there is in the

3559
02:47:41,380 --> 02:47:39,800
works so we're gonna be shooting that I

3560
02:47:42,810 --> 02:47:41,390
was just in a movie called The

3561
02:47:46,480 --> 02:47:42,820
Ladykillers

3562
02:47:48,220 --> 02:47:46,490
which will be having its investor

3563
02:47:50,980 --> 02:47:48,230
screening next week and then we'll be

3564
02:47:54,040 --> 02:47:50,990
taking it to the festivals over the next

3565
02:47:54,520 --> 02:47:54,050
six months and shipping based on how

3566
02:47:58,650 --> 02:47:54,530
that goes

3567
02:48:03,310 --> 02:47:58,660
we'll see it in theaters maybe next year

3568
02:48:06,820 --> 02:48:03,320
what else there's a ton of webseries

3569
02:48:10,000 --> 02:48:06,830
that I've been asked to do oh no I know

3570
02:48:13,480 --> 02:48:10,010
that you did chill packed last week do

3571
02:48:16,960 --> 02:48:13,490
you do it every Monday yes every Monday

3572
02:48:19,480 --> 02:48:16,970
we record a show sometimes you know the

3573
02:48:22,660 --> 02:48:19,490
odd pre-recorded show gets in there when

3574
02:48:25,330 --> 02:48:22,670
we're traveling about but yeah every

3575
02:48:29,620 --> 02:48:25,340
Monday we record a chimp at Hollywood

3576
02:48:33,370 --> 02:48:29,630
hour and so have a listen at chill pack

3577
02:48:36,610 --> 02:48:33,380
it's about CH I ll tak Hollywood calm

3578
02:48:38,980 --> 02:48:36,620
and you can have a listen to our new a

3579
02:48:42,190 --> 02:48:38,990
show it's been free for eight solid

3580
02:48:44,170 --> 02:48:42,200
years now I love it and I'm telling you

3581
02:48:46,150 --> 02:48:44,180
all of the fader nots out there right

3582
02:48:48,460 --> 02:48:46,160
now you've got to check out the chill

3583
02:48:48,820 --> 02:48:48,470
pack Hollywood hour you just go it's

3584
02:48:50,530 --> 02:48:48,830
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3585
02:48:52,120 --> 02:48:50,540
it's right there boom click onto the

3586
02:48:53,230 --> 02:48:52,130
website starts playing automatically

3587
02:48:56,349 --> 02:48:53,240
what more do you want

3588
02:48:58,480 --> 02:48:56,359
right absolutely exactly so and and what

3589
02:49:01,179 --> 02:48:58,490
about comic-con are you still doing

3590
02:49:04,270 --> 02:49:01,189
those yeah absolutely I'll be doing

3591
02:49:07,360 --> 02:49:04,280
June 20th uh be in Sydney Australia June

3592
02:49:09,730 --> 02:49:07,370
27th I'll be in Perth Australia and then

3593
02:49:12,849 --> 02:49:09,740
I'll be in Connecticut July 8th that

3594
02:49:16,200 --> 02:49:12,859
kinetic on and then in Wellington New

3595
02:49:19,330 --> 02:49:16,210
Zealand July 17th followed by

3596
02:49:21,370 --> 02:49:19,340
international improv comedy festival in

3597
02:49:25,870 --> 02:49:21,380
Melbourne July 27th

3598
02:49:27,760 --> 02:49:25,880
well why Australia well I'm I mean we

3599
02:49:31,360 --> 02:49:27,770
love Australia but man that's a whole

3600
02:49:35,080 --> 02:49:31,370
that's like a tour oh I know well I

3601
02:49:38,170 --> 02:49:35,090
think I I may be moving there in the

3602
02:49:41,500 --> 02:49:38,180
next few little while for a couple years

3603
02:49:43,450 --> 02:49:41,510
because my better half has a contract

3604
02:49:45,040 --> 02:49:43,460
there for two years so we're gonna be

3605
02:49:47,980 --> 02:49:45,050
living down there and I'm gonna be

3606
02:49:50,320 --> 02:49:47,990
touring the world still so I'll be but

3607
02:49:54,429 --> 02:49:50,330
just based out of Sydney because their

3608
02:49:56,170 --> 02:49:54,439
flights are cheaper too yeah I gotta get

3609
02:49:58,599 --> 02:49:56,180
you back out and the next time I would

3610
02:50:01,630 --> 02:49:58,609
love to have you live in the studio here

3611
02:50:04,960 --> 02:50:01,640
and and exactly I wanted to bring my

3612
02:50:07,300 --> 02:50:04,970
flame guitar you liked that didn't you I

3613
02:50:13,510 --> 02:50:07,310
do like that I'm dying to hear now the

3614
02:50:15,760 --> 02:50:13,520
foam decoys actually I I have I have

3615
02:50:19,090 --> 02:50:15,770
three songs floating around you know

3616
02:50:21,910 --> 02:50:19,100
that was 1988 but there was a three song

3617
02:50:24,219 --> 02:50:21,920
EP that was cut that I have I have

3618
02:50:25,960 --> 02:50:24,229
around here somewhere and what wouldn't

3619
02:50:33,809 --> 02:50:25,970
one of the big hits off of that thing

3620
02:50:37,179 --> 02:50:33,819
was called don't pay to play the deal

3621
02:50:40,900 --> 02:50:37,189
the deal we did we did a remake called

3622
02:50:43,570 --> 02:50:40,910
action Strasse that was a that was a big

3623
02:50:50,380 --> 02:50:43,580
hit song about it about a street called

3624
02:50:52,330 --> 02:50:50,390
action Street yeah yep Strasse hey Dean

3625
02:50:54,240 --> 02:50:52,340
I had a great time tonight thank you so

3626
02:50:57,309 --> 02:50:54,250
much thank you

3627
02:51:01,660 --> 02:50:57,319
you got it Thank You Dean

3628
02:51:02,440 --> 02:51:01,670
I doubt Dean Haglund everybody Thank You

3629
02:51:05,620 --> 02:51:02,450
Dean

3630
02:51:07,500 --> 02:51:05,630
while what what a night here unfaded

3631
02:51:10,540 --> 02:51:07,510
black I'm gonna take a quick break and

3632
02:51:13,360 --> 02:51:10,550
I'll be back to wrap things up in just a

3633
02:51:15,790 --> 02:51:13,370
short bit and let me do this let's go

3634
02:51:19,030 --> 02:51:15,800
back to here there we go I got it

3635
02:51:21,011 --> 02:51:19,040
this is fade to black from the game

3636
02:51:23,320 --> 02:51:21,021
changer Network Thank You Dean Haglund

3637
02:51:25,060 --> 02:51:23,330
that was absolutely amazing

3638
02:51:29,070 --> 02:51:25,070
I'm your host Jimmy Church I'll be back

3639
02:51:44,881 --> 02:51:35,030
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3640
02:51:51,360 --> 02:51:48,060
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

3641
02:51:55,810 --> 02:51:51,370
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3643
02:52:00,610 --> 02:51:58,400
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3646
02:52:07,870 --> 02:52:05,780
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3648
02:52:13,780 --> 02:52:11,450
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3649
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3650
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3653
02:52:25,030 --> 02:52:22,730
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3654
02:52:27,520 --> 02:52:25,040
Marrs former head of UFO project for the

3655
02:52:30,070 --> 02:52:27,530
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3656
02:52:33,220 --> 02:52:30,080
Linda Moulton Howe author and contactee

3657
02:52:35,860 --> 02:52:33,230
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3658
02:52:38,710 --> 02:52:35,870
Dolan and many more don't want to miss

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3687
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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

3688
02:54:09,240 --> 02:54:07,240
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3689
02:54:12,210 --> 02:54:09,250
listening to me Church this is

3690
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revolution the revolution will not be

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televised the revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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ah yeah fade to black

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this spoke radio for the masses I got it

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I got a thank Dean Haglund one more time

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I also want to give a big shout-out to

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RW thank you brother and you know what

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I'm talking about

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alright now I want to set up a couple of

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things for tomorrow night tomorrow night

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is Fator night and for all of you new

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02:55:29,300 --> 02:55:26,460
listeners right now that are listening

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02:55:31,040 --> 02:55:29,310
to the show for the first time that's

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02:55:32,870 --> 02:55:31,050
exactly what the show is about what you

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just listen to Thank You Dean Haglund

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its long-form conversation show tomorrow

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night is Fator night it is open lines

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all night long we'll be taking your

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phone calls all night I want to set up

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tomorrow night a couple of things really

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quick I wanted to want everybody to

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think about this overnight I got a bunch

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of email this week about time travel and

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and another time travel show when we can

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I don't know why it comes in in floods

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like it does but it but this week I got

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a bunch email about time travel so I

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want to talk about that tomorrow night I

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want your time travel stories is there

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any time travelers out there anybody out

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there travel I want to take those phone

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calls tomorrow night also too I want

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everybody to think about this overnight

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the best UFO incident that needs to be

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made into a movie that hasn't been done

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yet

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what is the one event so I want that

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tomorrow night so I want everybody to

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think about that don't tweet it in right

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now I want it for tomorrow night okay

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next one of the one of the things that

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stirred the most emails and responses

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02:56:58,760 --> 02:56:55,260
from everybody out there was sleep

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paralysis sleep paralysis we all know my

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02:57:04,550 --> 02:57:01,080
story I've told it you know a few times

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here on the show I want to know if you

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have experienced sleep paralysis

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we know my story I want to know yours

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tomorrow night

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so that's setting the stage and that's

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what I would like to talk to you

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tomorrow night I'm fade to black the

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02:57:22,670 --> 02:57:19,199
best UFO incident that needs to be made

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02:57:24,460 --> 02:57:22,680
into a movie to time travel

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we'll talk about that tomorrow night and

3746
02:57:30,439 --> 02:57:28,020
sleep paralysis okay

3747
02:57:33,979 --> 02:57:30,449
have you experienced it you know my

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02:57:36,410 --> 02:57:33,989
story is it similar to I want to hear

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yours and that's what we're gonna set up

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with tomorrow night okay so that is fade

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to black oh by the way I wanna I just

3752
02:57:51,649 --> 02:57:47,069
wanna say I love you fader Dodds when I

3753
02:57:54,200 --> 02:57:51,659
brought up Bruce Campbell and couldn't

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02:57:57,559 --> 02:57:54,210
remember his name and and Dean and we

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02:58:00,710 --> 02:57:57,569
stumbled to watch Twitter light up like

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02:58:04,099 --> 02:58:00,720
that so quickly everybody remembers

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02:58:07,070 --> 02:58:04,109
Bruce Campbell now his movie with Rod

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02:58:09,710 --> 02:58:07,080
Steiger that that I love is called out

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02:58:11,149 --> 02:58:09,720
there and I think we're gonna try to dig

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that up and we'll do that for fader

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cinema this Saturday okay so but

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everybody I ignored it

3763
02:58:19,820 --> 02:58:17,939
I didn't ignore it I didn't get a chance

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02:58:24,290 --> 02:58:19,830
I was talking to Dean but I watched

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02:58:26,110 --> 02:58:24,300
Bruce Campbell fly by so fast and I'm

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just glad that everybody out there

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02:58:29,750 --> 02:58:28,800
remembers and appreciates Bruce Campbell

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as much as I do

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02:58:35,120 --> 02:58:32,130
so there you go all right so that's it

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for tomorrow night the best UFO incident

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02:58:39,979 --> 02:58:36,870
that needs to be made into a movie time

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02:58:41,570 --> 02:58:39,989
travel and sleep paralysis and of course

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02:58:43,280 --> 02:58:41,580
all the other breaking news that will be

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02:58:46,189 --> 02:58:43,290
happening between now and then

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02:58:48,530 --> 02:58:46,199
Thank You Dean Haglund absolutely

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02:58:50,479 --> 02:58:48,540
extraordinary show fade to black cigs

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ecute of producers Rita Kumari on shows

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02:58:58,189 --> 02:58:54,000
produced by Hilton Jay Paul mark D kovar

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02:59:01,340 --> 02:58:58,199
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02:59:04,809 --> 02:59:01,350
Jonas announcers are Steve harder Jean

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02:59:08,349 --> 02:59:04,819
Patou and Mark D Kovar Beatty by Dale

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02:59:12,439 --> 02:59:08,359
webmaster is the one and only method of

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02:59:17,120 --> 02:59:12,449
signaling music by doug aldrich intro

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02:59:20,320 --> 02:59:17,130
space boys space boy music.com fade to

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black is produced by kjsurya productions

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kedi ra

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the planets tomorrow night's is Fator

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02:59:30,819 --> 02:59:28,880
night Thank You Dean Haglund I'm your

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02:59:37,600 --> 02:59:30,829
host Jimmy Church I want everybody to be